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10 more characters we'd like to see in 'Gotham'

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on 10 more characters we'd like to see in 'Gotham'

7. Carmine Falcone

Carmine-Falcone

Carmine Falcone played a fairly major role in Bruce Wayne's origin story in Batman Begins, but another take would still be a welcome addition to Gotham. New creation Fish Mooney looks set to be the big bad for season one, but having the man who ran the city during Year One be revealed as the one pulling the strings would be a great twist. Though it obviously wouldn't feature Batman, a loose adaptation of "The Long Halloween" in Gotham would also be amazing to see, especially as it features a very human serial killer who would make for a perfect foe for Jim Gordon. The character has made something of a comeback in "The New 52" DC Universe in the Batman Eternal weekly series, so now would be a perfect time for Falcone to be on the small screen as well.

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  1. Brione Avatar
    Brione

    "I've never liked Harley Quinn. She's as relevant as Damien Wayne. They should keep her in the animated world."

    Said no one else ever, only Atomic Man..

    1. lethargicj Avatar
      lethargicj

      If that's not the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is. BURN.

    2. Dagon Crows Avatar
      Dagon Crows

      Irrelevant? What do you even mean by that? Irrelevant to Batman? She's a Batman villain, so no less relevant than any other. In fact she's directly linked to Joker, Batman's archenemy, so she's actually a bit more relevant than most.

      1. Dagon Crows Avatar
        Dagon Crows

        Why did you move on to another point, instead of answering my question? Anyway, I could say the same about any character I don't personally like... or anything really. I'm still not going to wish for popular characters to just disappear and never be used again, because I don't like them personally when I know that others do.

        1. Dagon Crows Avatar
          Dagon Crows

          "Those characters you dont like are somehow relevant."
          How very assuming of you. :)
          And I have a feeling you don't know what relevant means.

          1. Dagon Crows Avatar
            Dagon Crowsreplying to Dagon Crows

            Okay.

        2. Brione Avatar
          Brione

          "Why did you move on to another point, instead of answering my question?"
          Because he's a Troll and that's what Trolls do.

          1. Dagon Crows Avatar
            Dagon Crowsreplying to Brione

            So he's just being himself?
            Disney movies taught me not to look down on that.

          2. Brione Avatar
            Brionereplying to Brione

            Hahahaha you writing that is one of the funniest things I've ever read

          3. Brione Avatar
            Brionereplying to Brione

            You are trolling right now buddy. I bet Harley is one of your favorite characters. You just want attention. You succeeded, good for you..

          4. Brione Avatar
            Brionereplying to Brione

            I'm done with you, but keep on trolling man. We all know you will...

  2. MIGN Avatar
    MIGN

    I agree. I already don't like the fact that we have a young Catwoman. In fact, young Bruce shouldn't be a regular character either. This should be a "Gotham Central" sort of thing, where the focus is on the cops. Have them feature the Wayne murder, sure. People complain that there is too little Batman, but I actually think there is too much.

    1. Knight-Errant Avatar
      Knight-Errant

      I agree with all of this, except "is just going very WRONG." The isn't for me (a lot of which stems from the issues you & karenlin mentioned), but I don't want to say its "wrong."

      There will be a following for this show just like there is for Arrow, AoS, & the forthcoming Flash (none of which are for me). I don't think its 'wrong' with what's being done, just not for me.

      And that's okay...

      1. Knight-Errant Avatar
        Knight-Errant

        I don't know if its the "safe road", as much as a Houdini misdirection. People are (presumably) lured in with the notion this is a Batman show. You've got the characters, the foreshadowing, & the fancy wrapper. The most interesting character in the Bat-universe, Batman, isn't in the show. The concept could be that by overwhelming the viewers with the Bat-universe, he/she won't realize the linch pin is missing.

        It'll probably turn off a section of viewers just like an new imaging of an establish character(s); Star Trek, Green Arrow, Superman, etc.

  3. Guest Avatar
    Guest

    Way too early for Harley Quinn. (Assuming Joker himself doesn't exist 'till the end)

    1. Dagon Crows Avatar
      Dagon Crows

      Lover's and Madmen style, working off collage debts in a restaurant/bar(can't remember the specifics)?

      I'd actually be more interested in seeing her deadbeat con artist dad, who actually has a pretty good reason to be constantly running into police officer Gordon.

    2. lethargicj Avatar
      lethargicj

      Harley always seemed like she was around 10 years younger than Joker. Maybe more. That was part of what made the relationship interesting. Joker corrupting this young woman. So if we're to assume Joker at this point in the series would be a teenager or around 20, wouldn't Harley be WAY too young to really do anything? And how would she already be a doctor at Arkham?

      1. Dagon Crows Avatar
        Dagon Crows

        Based on what was reported of that leaked script (which is probably real, based on recent announcements), Joker is definitely older than a teenager, and probably a full grown man, say mid to late 20's.

        1. lethargicj Avatar
          lethargicj

          What leaked script?

          1. Chris Avatar
            ChrisBatman News Archivereplying to lethargicj

            It never fully leaked online, but some websites got their hands on it and wrote up some notes:
            http://io9.com/what-we-lear...

            It's 100% legit.

          2. Dagon Crows Avatar
            Dagon Crowsreplying to lethargicj

            Sadly, I could never find an actual copy of the script, only reports of it, with deatils. Rereading the page linked below, I misremembered, and Joker's age seems like it could be a little more variable (though I'm still going to say, not a teenager), but I don't think it would matter too much if Joker was a fair bit older than Batman.
            http://io9.com/what-we-lear...

          3. lethargicj Avatar
            lethargicjreplying to Dagon Crows

            Oh, I've seen that. But I don't remember anything about the Joker being in it.

          4. Dagon Crows Avatar
            Dagon Crowsreplying to lethargicj

            "There's also a comedian telling jokes in gangster Fish
            Mooney's club, jokes straight out of Reader's Digest circa 1942. Mooney laughs hysterically, and, just in case those feelings were somehow opaque to the audiences, she tells
            the comedian she likes him. A lot. Repeatedly. "

          5. Chris Avatar
            ChrisBatman News Archivereplying to lethargicj

            I don't think the io9 folks were Bat-savvy enough to pick up on it... but a young "Joker" is definitely present in the pilot script.

          6. Dagon Crows Avatar
            Dagon Crowsreplying to Chris

            Out of curiosity, have you seen an actual copy of the script?

          7. Chris Avatar
            ChrisBatman News Archivereplying to Dagon Crows

            Yes. I'll only say one other thing about it... this article mentions Carmine Falcone, we actually got a look at him in trailer!

          8. Dagon Crows Avatar
            Dagon Crowsreplying to Chris

            And the rest of my day has been planned for me.
            To Youtube!
            Edit: Well the picture sure made quick work of that. Lol. Thank you. Now I'm wondering why I never even thought about who that was when the trailer first came out.

        2. Knight-Errant Avatar
          Knight-Errant

          Yikes. If so, it strengthens my initial argument this should just be Gotham Central instead of series ten(-ish) years before Batman appears.

          1. Dagon Crows Avatar
            Dagon Crowsreplying to Knight-Errant

            I agree, but there is still some interesting potential for this show.

          2. Knight-Errant Avatar
            Knight-Errantreplying to Dagon Crows

            I'm sure it does. I hope those who watch it find it enjoyable & have years to watch the series progress.

      2. lethargicj Avatar
        lethargicj

        Shut up.

      3. Knight-Errant Avatar
        Knight-Errant

        The woman tied up in the trunk of my car (I call her my girlfriend) kept saying the same thing to me...until I used duct tape!

  4. Rory Avatar
    Rory

    I don't really like Josh Wilding

    1. Josh_Wilding Avatar
      Josh_Wilding

      Any particular reason why not? :)

      1. King T'Challa Avatar
        King T'Challa

        Dude i thought you was on cmb.com?

        1. Josh_Wilding Avatar
          Josh_Wilding

          I am, but I also write for HeyUGuys and Batman-News' sister site, Spider-Man News. Oh, and the odd feature here too obviously! :)

          1. King T'Challa Avatar
            King T'Challareplying to Josh_Wilding

            Well damn. Nice article.

          2. King T'Challa Avatar
            King T'Challareplying to Josh_Wilding

            Although some characters doesn't make sense because they are around Bruce's age and some are older.

          3. Knight-Errant Avatar
            Knight-Errantreplying to King T'Challa

            I get the strong suspicion that age thing will be bent or just plain thrown out for this series.

      2. lethargicj Avatar
        lethargicj

        Because you can't seem to put more than one paragraph on one page?

        1. Chris Avatar
          ChrisBatman News Archive

          That was my choice, so you can be mad at me :(

          1. lethargicj Avatar
            lethargicjreplying to Chris

            I'm a simple man. I like scrolling with one finger.

      3. Just Sayin' Avatar
        Just Sayin'

        For starters, you actually think the New 52 Mr. Freeze is a better version of Mr. Freeze than the typical "BTAS version".

  5. lethargicj Avatar
    lethargicj

    Tommy Elliot, Red Hood and Falcone are the only ones on this list that make any real sense. Most of the rest are pretty crazy ideas. And the idea that Killer Croc would bring in ratings is hilarious.

    1. Dagon Crows Avatar
      Dagon Crows

      I think he just meant Croc's appearance would attract viewers, not really his popularity. I think Croc could actually be used as visual shorthand for the downward spiral of the city. At least one glimpse of Croc every season, every time a little bit more of a monster; as his condition worsens, so to does the city's.
      Edit: Typo

      1. lethargicj Avatar
        lethargicj

        Yeah. Croc attracting viewers is the part I'm laughing about.

        By time we get a few years down the line for Croc to make sense, the viewers of this show will be set. There won't be any major ratings jumps or declines. People will have already decided if they like the show enough to watch it or not. The idea that a young version of Killer Croc showing up would make a bunch of people who don't watch the show decide to watch it is silly. I'd say Joker is about the only character who'd have that kind of impact.

        1. Dagon Crows Avatar
          Dagon Crows

          Well he's a very strange looking, crocodile kid, so I think it would at least interest people if he was put into the trailer. Would it bring a significant viewer boost? Doubtful, but I can see where he's coming from.

  6. buck135 Avatar
    buck135

    This is going to sound petty, but my favorite Batman villain is Poison Ivy. I wasn't excited about the show until I saw that she was included. Then I read that they butchered her name from Pamela Isley to Ivy Pepper. Essentially saying, the viewers are too stupid to figure out who a young Pamela Isley will become. This shouldn't bother me this much, but it does. I'm going to pass on the show.

  7. Dagon Crows Avatar
    Dagon Crows

    I like both and disagree. I don't like Zsasz but I'm not going to say they should just keep him out of everything, because some people do, and I'm not being forced to watch it.

  8. Dagon Crows Avatar
    Dagon Crows

    I'd prefer to just see normal, not insane, Mr. Freeze. Maybe we could even see the early stages of his wife's disease, and her eventual death, leading up to his obsessive research. It could be a very emotional story if done right. We'd never be able to see whether or not he'd save his wife (after she's already frozen, and he's trying to find the cure), but it could end with the implication that he'd never stop trying, no matter how futile... followed by a few dark hints at his criminal future.

  9. Worlds Finest Comments Avatar
    Worlds Finest Comments

    I would like to see young Thomas Elliot so we can plant the seeds for Hush at least.

  10. I-AM-THE-NIGHT Avatar
    I-AM-THE-NIGHT

    I would love to see the Mad Hatter also.

  11. Gothamite1939 Avatar
    Gothamite1939

    Two characters that I would love to see in this show are Roman Sionis and Tommy Elliot, they can put a young Clark Kent in this show for a cameo, I remember reading a Batman Crossover with Superman about when they were young and unwittingly crossed paths after Bruce's parents were murdered and he was travelling through Smallville with Alfred.
    But I would rather the show focus on Gordon and him trying to stop the growing corruption in Gotham etc, sought of go deeper and expand the world of Gotham. In my opinion the stories are there, in particular the mob side of things with Maroni and Falcone etc.

  12. Kerk Lastnameless Avatar
    Kerk Lastnameless

    What would a child-Bane be doing in Gotham? He is a Mexican, with heavy accent. No, he shouldn't be there.

    Clark Kent also wouldn't go there as a child.

    Hush, very much yes. But he won't. I don't know why, but DC just seems to be uninterested in him.

  13. BP Avatar
    BP

    ROMAN SIONIS should be young Bruce's best friend in this series!

    And Joe Chill should have a big role in the first season!

  14. Aheaney15 Avatar
    Aheaney15

    Bane- No
    Harley- No
    Clark Kent- Maybe
    Oliver Queen- Possible
    Vicki Vale- No
    All others: YES!!!

    I would also love Arnold Wesker, a young, failed puppet entertainer with a speech impediment.

  15. Danny Scarnecchia Avatar
    Danny Scarnecchia

    Put Harvey Dent in there

  16. MIGN Avatar
    MIGN

    As for number 5: that definitely won't happen. Both Gotham and Arrow take place in the present day and you can't have a young Ollie co-exist with an older Ollie. Gotham takes place in a different universe. Arrow and the Flash (and possibly Constantine, but even that is doubtful) take place in the same universe, but not Gotham. It can't.

  17. RPMan Avatar
    RPMan

    I hope they use the Joker origin story where he is forced to intrude the chemical plant.

  18. The Dark Knight Detective Avatar
    The Dark Knight Detective

    No to Arrow and Sups (though mostly Sups), yes to everything else. I'd rather not have overpowered aliens invading the show in later seasons when Batman is introduced because otherwise it would be something like this

    Joe: Steve, I got a great idea for a bank heist you see we do this, that and then this
    Steve: That's great Joe, but you're forgetting one thing
    Joe: What's that?
    Steve: Superman
    Joe: ......dammit you're right, oh well.

    I wouldn't be surprised if that's what must happen on a daily basis in Metropolis.

    Steve: I got a plan for world domination!
    Joe: Superman
    Steve: ****! Every freaking time!

    1. Knight-Errant Avatar
      Knight-Errant

      You more then likely won't see Batman in the series. Fox doesn't have the rights to the character.

  19. Jim Shields Avatar
    Jim Shields

    Doesn't make sense to try to cram Bane into this. He's not from Gotham nor should he be. No way will they have Ollie Queen or Clark Kent. Vickie Vale is perfect for the school newspaper. Harley could be a girl in school with Bruce who is leaning towards psychology. And they definitely should touch on the Court of Owls

  20. Phil Avatar
    Phil

    I would like to see Harvey Dent / Two-Face in the series.

    1. The_Joker Avatar
      The_Joker

      He wouldn't be Two-Face while being 12 years old.

      1. Phil Avatar
        Phil

        I get your point, thanks.

        1. The_Joker Avatar
          The_Joker

          Your welcome :)

  21. Smirking_Revenge Avatar
    Smirking_Revenge

    From what I know, they want to make this TV show as realistic as Nolan's movies. I don't see how they can use characters like Killer Croc fit into a real life adaptation without it looking cheesy and campy.

    I like Bane but chronologically, and geographically, it doesn't make sense. As far as I know he's at least 10 years younger than Bruce Wayne so he wouldn't even be alive during this show. That and the fact he'd be on the other side of the planet anyway.

    The characters that make the most sense are the realistic ones like Carmine Falcone or Roland Daggett (from B:TAS) or Ra's Al Ghul and League of Shadows.

  22. Mr.Freeze Avatar
    Mr.Freeze

    what killed the dinosaurs? the ice age!

    1. The_Joker Avatar
      The_Joker

      Actually is was a meteor.

    2. Aheaney15 Avatar
      Aheaney15

      Funny reference, but there is a (this is not an exaggeration) 60 million year gap between the extinction of the dinosaurs and the beginning of the last ice age, according to every historian/paleontologist ever! but as i said, funny reference to the worst movie ever.

  23. Captain DC Avatar
    Captain DC

    Thomas Elliot is an obvious one. BUT, Bane has no pre-Batman ties to Gotham. Fox can't touch Clark Kent or Oliver Queen. A young Harley Quinn would be a waste, because the actual Joker, is who unlocks her craziness. How about a young Rachel Dawes? Or, NOT.

  24. Josh Avatar
    Josh

    Carmine falcone was in the first episode of the first series and red hood papered in the first series

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