Wonder Woman 1984

'Wonder Woman 2' teaser hints at 'Wonder Woman 1984' as the official title

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June 1, 2018

DC Films head Geoff Johns just released a Wonder Woman 2 teaser to his Facebook page, as spotted by The Hollywood Reporter. The teaser reads "WW84", strongly hinting that the sequel's official title will be Wonder Woman 1984. Director Patty Jenkins has also updated her Twitter banner to include the teaser.

Last week Warner Bros. registered a bunch of Wonder Woman 2 website domain names, and WonderWoman1984.com was one of them. As of now the website is not live, but with Wonder Woman 2 production scheduled to begin this month, it probably will be soon.

Wonder Woman 2 director Patty Jenkins confirmed rumors in April that the movie will take place in the 1980s. Do you like the title Wonder Woman 1984? Let me know in the comments below.

VIA: The Hollywood Reporter

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348 comments

Drew Douglas
June 1, 2018
Love it.
Jesse Hernandez
June 1, 2018
I love how the original composer is back... his score was really good last movie and I just watched Hacksaw Ridge and “Praying” is one of his best tracks
1. Davor
  June 1, 2018
  When he finished James Wan's AQUAMAN!
2. Hunter Zolomon
  June 1, 2018
  My 2nd favorite score of the DCEU with MoS being top.
  1. Nightwing Fan J
    June 1, 2018
    I see you too are an intellectual
    1. Hunter Zolomon
      June 1, 2018
      I would have rated BvS soundtrack higher but i found it too noisy, the quieter tracks are great along with the WW theme but the more action heavy tracks i just find to be really weak. MoS is clearly the high point though as it has a great mixture of everything, its not Zimmer's best work but it completely suits the film its in and his SM theme is awesome.
      1. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        I totally agree. I think the addition of Junkie XL was a mistake. The fight scenes could have been even better with better music. Something like 300 would've been amazing.
El Catalan Libanes
June 1, 2018
I don't love it, but 1984 is a BIG title, so I'm curious about where are they going with it.
1. El Catalan Libanes
  June 1, 2018
  And yes, I'm talking about the novel.
2. = ( ^___^) +
  June 1, 2018
  Really sounds dated.
  The good thing about “pre-standard computer age” movies is that solutions CANNOT be found with a few clicks of a mouse. Nor can a villain shut down a grid (well, ar least not so easily) as they would be able go do today.
  Hollywood has had a difficult time with their characters using, even, the most simple tech. I mean, how many times have we asked “uh. No cell phone? No laptop with you to call for help? No one around you with either that you can ask to use for this emergency?” at the screen for more than a few contemporary films.
Terrence
June 1, 2018
Love it.
greenarrowfan1
June 1, 2018
1984 like george orwell book
1. thefallen83
  June 1, 2018
  I thought the exact same thing.
AnonymousHero
June 1, 2018
Cool. That was a good year. And it reminds of the George Orwell classic, 1984, which focused on war, the future, love and other timely themes. Do your thing Patty.
I can dig it.
*Added thought: If this does have some parallels to the inspirations behind 1984, this might not only speak on the issues going on within the world right now but also foreshadow "future" evils to come in the DCU by the end of the film... possibly from a guy that shoots omega beams...
Godspeed
June 1, 2018
Better just call it WW84 then.
I am curious how they will handle the limitations that BvS and JL have put on Wonder Womans backstory in this movie. Even in Justice League it was clearly stated that Diana was not known in public as Wonder Woman (as Batman had never heard of her until 2016) and it was an important plot point in JL that this was the movie where Diana finally steps out of the shadows and leads and inspires the people around her.
This means that obviously she can not do that in the next WW movie which is set about 35 years before JL. So she can not just be the Wonder Woman from the comics that everyone knows and that inspires people all around the world. She can not be out in the open and her very existence can not be known in this movie.
That is one hell of a limitation for Patty Jenkins. Honestly it would have been so much better and easier to set this movie AFTER Justice League which would not only give Jenkins maximum freedom but also allow Wonder Woman to be the world beloved icon of love and inspiring leader she is in the comics.
1. NinjaGamer13
  June 1, 2018
  This has been discussed extensively already, and it’s actually pretty simple. Just keep WW from becoming a global superhero, instead scaled down to less prominent missions and things. As long as it’s nothing as big and seen worldwide as the events of Man of Steel, her secrecy should be safe.
  1. Myron Kapetanakis
    June 1, 2018
    Exactly, I don't know why people still don't get it. We have to see the movie first, but I think she will go to a secret mission on her own, or she will team up with some secret agents away from the public eye. There are comic book stories like that.
    1. Trevor
      June 2, 2018
      She is fighting Cheetah the bloodthirsty werecat
  2. Talia
    June 1, 2018
    Plus if she's involved in the Cold War, she might be more known in the Soviet Union than anywhere else.
  3. Trevor Hadley
    June 9, 2018
    Patty said this is a completely standalone adventure and it will have a big superhero appearance
2. Trevor
  June 2, 2018
  Patty said that WW will be fully developed and the height of her powers
thefallen83
June 1, 2018
A dystopian age where the government lies to us and changes the past and everything's about a surveillance state. Oh wait... that could be 2018 in the USA.
Can't wait for this movie's final result!
1. NinjaGamer13
  June 1, 2018
  That’s every year ever, basically
  1. thefallen83
    June 1, 2018
    Yup. Now I wanna read the goddamn book for the 6th time. LOL
Seb
June 1, 2018
Kinda like it. Better than "wonder woman rises/returns", that's for sure.
1. ItzSilentStorm
  June 1, 2018
  whats wrong with those titles?
  1. Godspeed
    June 1, 2018
    they are about as generic as it gets in the superhero genre.
    1. ItzSilentStorm
      June 1, 2018
      i wouldn't call it generic personally
  2. Seb
    June 1, 2018
    They're generic and don't tell us anything about the movie.
    Dark Knight Rises works because the idea of him "rising" (again) was a prominent theme in the film. Doesn't work with WW.
    1. ItzSilentStorm
      June 1, 2018
      tbh some people who didn't follow those movies closely thought TDKR was a prequel.
      I mean it tells you that Wonder Woman "returns" so...idk im just not really feeling this "generic" argument. It just seems like a sort of classic superhero type thing. I mean when was the last time we saw something actually called "Character Returns" in this genre? I need my memory jogged a bit
      1. Hunter Zolomon
        June 1, 2018
        How could they think Rises was a prequel to Batman Begins? Even the standard trailer played before every film in cinema's made it clear it was a sequel.
      2. ItzSilentStorm
        June 1, 2018
        do you think I am lying or something? Some people forgot or didn't even realize Begins was even a thing. They thought it was a prequel to The Dark Knight because of the word "rises"
      3. Hunter Zolomon
        June 1, 2018
        I'm not saying your lying i just it odd how people could mistake them.
      4. Seb
        June 1, 2018
        I honestly don't know what he's talking about. I'm not saying he's lying either, but I'm sure the people he's talking about represent maybe 0.00000001% of the movie going audience. TDKR was marketed as a sequel from the start. Don't know how people could possibly be confused about that. Besides, BB gained a lot of popularity after TDK. It was also massively successful on DVD/Bluray, so the idea that "people didn't really know about BB" is pretty inaccurate.
      5. UltimateEdition
        June 1, 2018
        I thought “rise of the tomb raider” was a prequel to “tomb raider” at first but thought twice about the dark knight rises because I was initiated with Batman. as for tomb raider, the sequel “rise of the tomb raider” is a stupid name since that’s essentially what happened in the first game.
      6. Rust
        June 1, 2018
        I've had to learn not to underestimate this sort of thing. lol
        There were people I knew who were confused about continuity with the Joker between TDK and B89.
      7. Seb
        June 1, 2018
        Maybe because the superhero genre wasn't that big back then... And even at the time, I struggle to believe anyone was confused about that, other than your grandparents or something.
      8. Rust
        June 1, 2018
        Yeah; I was surprised. I'm not saying it was a huge swath of people or anything. It did happen though.
        Personally don't have a serious dog in the "generic name" debate, just chiming in a bit of funny trivia.
      9. Seb
        June 1, 2018
        It's not problematic or anything. It's just a title after all... But I'll gladly choose WW84 over "WW Returns". The former sets the stage and tells us something about the movie. The latter is just a lazy title that doesn't mean or say anything about the film. You can use these "returns" titles for all sequels.
        Captain America Returns. Iron Man Returns. James Bond Returns.
        It always works... but it's so damn generic. The more I think about it, the more I like WW84. I mean, who doesn't love 80s movies? I think Patty picked that time period for a good reason and she's not hiding from it.
      10. Rust
        June 1, 2018
        I don't hate "Returns", and generic names don't bother me that much, but I do prefer something fresh and thought-provoking, and this seems to be just that. "WW84" is more exciting. :)
        I wonder if there really is an Orwell connection, or if maybe they were inspired by Blade Runner.
      11. Seb
        June 1, 2018
        I honestly didn't think of Orwell at all... It's cool that people pointed that out. I personally think it's because of Blade Runner. Still need to see those films though.
      12. Hunter Zolomon
        June 1, 2018
        True its just in this day and age even back in 2012 i would expect people to be more switched on then that haha. I give people too much credit here haha
      13. Seb
        June 1, 2018
        But the character returning goes with saying. It's a meaningless and generic title that can be used for basically any sequel.
        WW84 actually has a clear meaning, and it directly sets the stage for how this movie is going to be. I think it's a really cool idea, at least imo.
      14. ItzSilentStorm
        June 1, 2018
        its fine. I just think WW Returns would have been alright as well
      15. Rust
        June 1, 2018
        I think it was probably Superman Returns, which was around 2006. So like 12 years
        If there was another one, it was so small time that it missed even my radar. lol
        Guess you could count the TDKReturns animated movie?
      16. BugsMeany
        June 2, 2018
        The subtext of Superman Returns is that the character has returned to the big screen after almost 20 years. Good title. The subtext of Batman Returns is "We didn't want to call it Batman 2."
        Consider the movies' order vs. setting:
        BvS: present day
        WW: 1918
        JL: present day
        WW sequel: 1984
        In a perfectly linear timeline, "Returns" is just dull. In this one it's borderline nonsensical. We don't even know if 1984 is when she "returned" for the first time.
      17. Trevor
        September 6, 2019
        Wonder Woman: 1918
        Wonder Woman 1984: 1984
        BVS: Present Day
        JL: Present Day
    2. AnonymousHero
      June 2, 2018
      Agreed. And it's just generally lame and lazy altogether. After a great debut, we can do so much better than "Wonder Woman Returns".
      Yeah, we know she's returning. That's why we bought our tickets to see her. SMH.
NinjaGamer13
June 1, 2018
Yes! I called it! Love it!
Reverse_Flash
June 1, 2018
"A hundred years ago, I walked away from mankind, from a century of horrors. Men made a world where standing together is impossible".
This line making less and less sense by the day.
1. NinjaGamer13
  June 1, 2018
  This has been discussed extensively already, and it’s actually pretty simple. Just keep WW from becoming a global superhero, instead scaled down to less prominent missions and things. As long as it’s nothing as big and seen worldwide as the events of Man of Steel, her secrecy should be safe.
  1. Reverse_Flash
    June 1, 2018
    If you're going to copy paste comments, at least make sure they make sense. Your reply has nothing to do with what I just said.
    1. NinjaGamer13
      June 1, 2018
      You were arguing that she can’t have been doing any superhero-ing due to that line, right? Except that’s clearly not the case, as suggested by the end of WW and by her and Bruce’s argument in JL. It just means she stayed out of the public spotlight.
  2. Hunter Zolomon
    June 1, 2018
    I mean Chris has posted an article with Gal saying that the backstory she had in BvS was a mistake but hey what does she know when NinjaGamer13 knows everything about the DCEU and thinks 99% of what Snyder done was perfection and right.
    1. ginger gypo
      June 1, 2018
      Yeah it WAS a mistake, made by Snyder in complete ignorance, they owned up to it and they're ignoring it
      1. NinjaGamer13
        June 2, 2018
        No, he didn’t wrote BVS first of all. Second, it was necessary to preserve the canon of the DCEU. Third, I doubt they’ll truly ignore it; they’re just gonna interpret it the same way JL seems to be.
    2. NinjaGamer13
      June 2, 2018
      That doesn’t mean they’re going to have to break the canon, just interpret it differently. Which we already saw in action with JL. An actress answering a fan/reporter’s loaded question off the cuff does not have as much weight as the thought out plans of the writers and directors actually crafting the stories. And Snyder obviously agreed they should still have her superhero-ing since they reworked it beginning with WW, which he helped make the story for.
2. NinjaGamer13
  June 1, 2018
  Also, they kinda imply that is the case in JL
3. Godspeed
  June 1, 2018
  They already said that this line has basically been retconned out of existence in the DCEU canon. Still even in JL it was said that Diana had remained in the shadows and was not known in public until the events of JL as Batman frequently pointed out. Hard to retcon all of that since it was essentially WWs entire character arc in the whole movie.
  1. Reverse_Flash
    June 1, 2018
    What a mess.
    1. myzterius
      June 1, 2018
      Gal said it was a mistake in an interview.
      1. Reverse_Flash
        June 1, 2018
        I know.
  2. NinjaGamer13
    June 1, 2018
    She stayed out of the spotlight. It’s that simple. It doesn’t have to mean she quit superhero-ing entirely.
    1. Hunter Zolomon
      June 1, 2018
      Except in BvS she pretty much says she never got involved and stayed out of the way.
      1. Seb
        June 1, 2018
        Dude... you really need to understand that facts don't matter.
      2. Hunter Zolomon
        June 1, 2018
        I know but i can't help myself haha, its fun seeing how far he reaches though.
      3. NinjaGamer13
        June 2, 2018
        All I’ve done the past couple days is showing you facts, and that’s reaching. Pff, okay. Why should I bother if you’re just gonna troll?
      4. Hunter Zolomon
        June 2, 2018
        Haven't really shown facts though, i notice you never actually link these "facts" from articles.
      5. NinjaGamer13
        June 2, 2018
        Get over yourself
      6. Seb
        June 2, 2018
        It is objectively true, though.
      7. NinjaGamer13
        June 2, 2018
        That’s one way of interpreting the line, sure. The other way, which they appear to be going by instead, is that she stayed out of the global spotlight.
      8. Nahuel Benvenuto
        June 2, 2018
        This kid, zolomon, myzterius, and that flash guy, they are just cunt trolls, chris is just too much of a vain asshole to ban them because they give him a lot of comments when they troll, they dont even critizice Snyder movies in the actual flaws that they have, but on the ones they make up, in a decent site they would be banned since a long time ago
      9. Trevor
        September 6, 2019
        Wrong answer and she appears in WW84 where Cheetah lurks
  3. BugsMeany
    June 2, 2018
    JL had been written before Gal and Patty made those comments. Just because we saw it after the comments doesn't mean it contradicts the retcon.
  4. Trevor
    September 6, 2019
    WW84 is gonna give her more time to evolve and teach Justice League a lesson
4. BatmanNewsChris
  June 1, 2018
  Gal Gadot said that backstory for Wonder Woman was a mistake and that they'd basically be ignoring it going forward: https://batman-news.com/201...
  1. DR.Manhattan
    June 1, 2018
    Thank you Snyder bot for the news we already knew
    1. Rust
      June 1, 2018
      Some people might not have known that. ;p
  2. Reverse_Flash
    June 1, 2018
    Thanks Chris. I did know that. I'm just pointing out how inconvinient that line was.
  3. Nightwing Fan J
    June 1, 2018
    That's kind of disrespectful to Zack in my opinion
    1. Godspeed
      June 1, 2018
      You got it backwards. The fact that Zack even had the line in the movie was disrespectful to the character of Wonder Woman and its entire legacy.
      1. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        It's called character growth. She went from believing mankind was corrupt and not worth saving, to being inspired by Superman's sacrifice and helping the world. How is that disrespectful to her legacy?
      2. Godspeed
        June 1, 2018
        well Gal Gadot herself disagrees with you. So does Patty Jenkins and about every Wonder Woman writer that has ever lived. The fact you even have to ask this question shows that you don`t get the character of WW at all and what she stands for.
      3. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        Wow. An actress and a movie director have a different opinion than mine. That TOTALLY negates every point I've made. She stands for truth and justice, just like Superman. She always finds the good in people, even when others don't. That's who she is. But you can't just believe all that without a reason. Superman was that reason.
      4. Reverse_Flash
        June 1, 2018
        Luckily she didn't get to hear Superman's "No one stays good in this world", otherwise she would have walked away for the next 2000 years.
        If she heard the "Martha" line she would have sided with Doomsday.
      5. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        Instead, she heard "men are still good"
      6. Reverse_Flash
        June 1, 2018
        Yeah but not from Superman but from Batmurderer.
      7. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        He too was inspired by Superman's sacrifice. He learned that all life is precious.
      8. jrvc
        June 1, 2018
        Well now that she's in the 80's she can listen to Keaton's Batmurderer ;)
      9. Reverse_Flash
        June 1, 2018
        It's WW 84, not 89. Nice try.
        Plus, she walked away from mankind 100 years ago ;)
      10. jrvc
        June 1, 2018
        I said in the 80's, obviously Keaton's Batman had been operating for a time before the movie and if he can lend a hand to the guys from IT he can also interact with WW.
        And I see you still take that line literally, another proof on how you just take tidbits from anywhere without paying attention to the movies you supposedly "watch"
      11. Reverse_Flash
        June 1, 2018
        "had been operating for a time"
        How do you know? and for how long? At the beginning of the movie he was telling criminals to tell their friends about him. Seems like he was just beginning to make a name for himself.
        "you still take that line literally"
        Is that why it was retconned?
      12. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        Yeah I think you're right. I remember it being his origin.
      13. jrvc
        June 1, 2018
        Well after seeing so many taking it so literal maybe they had to do it so that they could understand it
      14. Reverse_Flash
        June 1, 2018
        lol, sure...
      15. jrvc
        June 1, 2018
        Quite
      16. Reverse_Flash
        June 2, 2018
        lol
      17. ItzSilentStorm
        June 1, 2018
        wonder woman is a warrior though.
      18. Reverse_Flash
        June 1, 2018
        True.
      19. Trevor
        September 6, 2019
        Diana already embraced the love for humanity both good and bad against Ares to realize that they are worth believing
      20. BatGod
        June 1, 2018
        LOL
      21. ginger gypo
        June 1, 2018
        The fact that Wonder Woman needs to be "inspired" by her better and vastly more important male counterpart to be the hero that she's always been is not only disrespectful to her legacy, it feels like a slap in the face
      22. NinjaGamer13
        June 2, 2018
        Get over it. Women can be inspired by men, too. Superman SHOULD be the hope for all of the DC universe. That’s his place as a character and one of the earliest and most famous superheroes of all time.
      23. ginger gypo
        June 2, 2018
        Compassion is her calling card, it’s completely out-of-character for Wonder Woman to turn her back on mankind and her coming back because of Superman just adds insult to injury. Snyder’s doesn’t understand the character, at all
      24. NinjaGamer13
        June 4, 2018
        She didn't stop helping people though. So you're complaining about nothing.
      25. Trevor
        December 4, 2018
        Wonder Woman embraced the goodness that people are capable of and also as the weapon against Ares
      26. Trevor
        September 6, 2019
        Wonder Woman realize that humanity is worth believing despite their flaws sooo she embraced the love for them both good badass sooo they are not corrupted,. Diana Prince/Wonder Woman appears in WW84 that is nearly 70 years after the events of Wonder Woman
      27. NinjaGamer13
        June 1, 2018
        It was necessary. Get. Freaking. Over. Your creepy obsession with deciding to hate everything about some guy who directs movies who you don’t even know.
      28. Hunter Zolomon
        June 1, 2018
        "Your creepy obsession with deciding to hate everything about some guy who directs movies who you don’t even know." In fairness you creepily worship the guy despite not knowing him and blindly defend 99% of his moves so you aren't really that different.
      29. NinjaGamer13
        June 2, 2018
        I don’t, dude. I don’t even know him. I’ve seen 3 or 4 of his movies in my entire life. I just am sick of the hyperbolic hate and the straight up lies. I will provide a balance when it is needed, because this hate is beyond necessary and is frankly unhealthy.
    2. ItzSilentStorm
      June 1, 2018
      it doesn't really make sense either. Having WW in the public eye would negate everything that was going on with Supes.
      1. Godspeed
        June 1, 2018
        Its not about WW being known in public. It was clearly stated in Justice League that she was not known in public. But not being known in public and completely abandoning mankind for a century are two entirely different things.
      2. ItzSilentStorm
        June 1, 2018
        well when they say they want to "retcon" her backstory or that it was a mistake or whatever it makes it sound as though they are completely abandoning the incognito thing.
      3. Godspeed
        June 1, 2018
        They won't do that. The point of her arc in JL was that this was the movie where she finally steps into the spotlight and takes on a role of leadership. You retcon that and you might as well reboot the whole damn thing.
      4. Trevor
        December 14, 2018
        Barbara Ann Minerva/Cheetah is the main villain in WW84
      5. Trevor
        September 6, 2019
        Wonder Woman needs more evolution and she appears in WW84 that is nearly 70 years after the events of Wonder Woman
      6. NinjaGamer13
        June 1, 2018
        You’re choosing to interpret it that way, but it’s not necessary to do.
      7. NinjaGamer13
        June 1, 2018
        THATS WHY SHES OUT OF THE PUBLIC EYE. How many times do we have to say it?? She can superhero from the shadows, just like Clark did for most of his life in MoS.
      8. ItzSilentStorm
        June 1, 2018
        oh shucks calm down guy. I am aware of that
      9. NinjaGamer13
        June 2, 2018
        Sorry. Taking out my frustrations on you isn’t necessary. Just feels like I’m on the 20th wave of a tower defense game or something with all this hate, lol
      10. myzterius
        June 1, 2018
        The difference is that supes wasnt all suited up, and how can you fight cheetah out of the public eye? You're telling me she will fight in the shadows in ww84?
      11. Rust
        June 1, 2018
        Depends on where the fight takes place.
        Some people are predicting a Winter Soldier sort of film, which does have some precedent in the comics (though it's not as well known). Check out this Wiki for the gist. It's better than I can summarize. :)
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
        I'd actually be excited to see a more political WW movie where Diana Prince is navigating the dark world of man in this time, and how Cheetah thematically fits into all that and while Diana is trying to find her place and purpose in the bigger picture.
        They could draw some parallels to Two-Face pretty comfortably, and that would fit in interestingly with the Cold War theme. Corruption and secrets abound, with a friend turned enemy unleashed upon that stage. Lots of potential.
      12. NinjaGamer13
        June 2, 2018
        Clothing shouldn’t make a difference. It’s the way you do it. He deliberately stayed a secret (for the most part). Sticking to smaller groups, covering tracks, traveling, etc.
        How do you fight ANYONE out of the public eye? Same applies. Except she doesn’t need to even be out of the public eye, just out of the GLOBAL spotlight.
        Could be a spy thriller-esque thing, if you wanna go more literal, yeah. Or else she might simply only be seen by small groups, like in the first WW movie.
    3. ZaQueerdo
      June 1, 2018
      It was a dumb decision to establish something that would constrain the makers of a future Wonder Woman movie so I can see why it was ignored.
    4. Kaingerc
      June 1, 2018
      forget about making a good movie, let's just not offend the great and mighty Zack Snyder.
      1. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        Not sure if you're pro-Snyder and worshipping him like a weirdo or anti-Snyder and being a dick.
      2. Kaingerc
        June 1, 2018
        I'm not "anti-Snyder" I just don't think that some of his character based decisions have been the best and that some of the fanbase thinking that everything he touches is gold and rejecting any outside input is not doing the DC movie franchise any good.
      3. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        It's okay to have that opinion. I agree. Many of the people on this site are way too radical. Not all of his decisions are great, but I still really like him as a director. Outside input is a great thing to have. Teamwork makes the dream work lol
    5. Hunter Zolomon
      June 1, 2018
      Yeah well he fucked up her backstory and made things really awkward for Patty, maybe he shouldn't decide on making all his characters "dark" and assholes then maybe all this with WW wouldn't have happened.
      1. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        I think what he did with WW was great. I didn't think she wasn't a dark character. She had many great moments in the movie. Like the stuff with Lexcorp. None of those scenes were dark.
      2. Myron Kapetanakis
        June 1, 2018
        It seems to me that people have run out of things to blame Snyder for. So, lets blame him for some more. Don't we all agree that the Wonder Woman scenes was the best part of BVS?
      3. Hunter Zolomon
        June 1, 2018
        I was thinking more about having her say she abandoned humanity because of the "darkness" in the world. Considering Diana is one of the most compassionate people in DC it never felt right she would just abandon them, yeah JL "fixed" it but it was clear that "fix" was never what Snyder had intended, in fact that "fix" was clearly there because of the backlash that line from BvS caused and how it didn't fit in with WW the film, WB clearly were behind that bit in JL.
      4. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        I believe that Snyder intended for all the characters to grow into who they're meant to be. Being the most compassionate person for the sake of being compassionate isn't interesting. Same goes for Superman being a big Boy Scout. They needed a reason to become who they are. So "fixing" wasn't exactly his intention. Gradual development is key.
      5. Hunter Zolomon
        June 1, 2018
        But her being so compassionate is the key reason she leaves Themyscira, it would be like taking away Bruce's parents being killed and still expecting you to buy he would still become the Batman we have always known. Her compassion is her greatest quality, its who she is and why everyone including all the other heroes are so enamored with her. Patty Jerkins and Gal herself completely understood her character from the minute you see Diana in WW while the only thing Snyder got right is her costume whats awesome and Diana being completely badass.
      6. Schuyler Finley
        June 1, 2018
        Because Diana was naive in WW. In BvS, she obviously saw a lot of shit. Why did you think Steve was getting visibly annoyed with her thinking that Ares was the cause of the war? He knew that man can be evil. Diana refused to see that at first.
      7. Hunter Zolomon
        June 2, 2018
        and her arc ended in WW believing there is good in this world and she beliefs in love and not hate. She see's the horror of this world but with Steve she also found love and the goodness and that people are worth fighting for. BvS pretty much said she gave up after WW1 and just hid herself from everyone and let the world sort its own shit out, the end of the WW1 section of WW though clearly said that's not what she did though as even though Steve died his death and sacrifice shows her the best of what man can be and not all are bad. Again Patty Jerkins understood the character while Snyder clearly didn't.
      8. Schuyler Finley
        June 2, 2018
        She saw horror, but you and I both know that World War 2 is even scarier. She has not seen the worst.
        It is beyond easy to work around her absence during WW2, hell they could easily just say that she gave up after WW2, if you want to ignore the hundred years line. Instead of having the characters actually go through some struggle and make them more relatable, folks like you and possibly even Jenkins don't want to see a crack in the "flawless" mirror. Snyder and Terrio at least understood that flaws make characters more relatable and understanding. But because of this "they wouldn't do that" mentality, you're handicapping the characters' growth.
      9. Josh Berreng
        June 2, 2018
        Dude, but Diana DID gave up AFTER the WW1. She understood that men can be good, the "power of love" and everything AFTER Superman's death.
      10. shanblalockwilliams
        January 7, 2019
        joshberreng briefly
      11. Trevor
        September 6, 2019
        She didn’t give up and she appears in WW84 which is nearly 70 years after the events of Wonder Woman
      12. Bartholomew Hunt
        June 2, 2018
        "I believe that Snyder intended for all the characters to grow into who they're meant to be."
        Sadly, it was never brought onto the screen organically. I was almost happy when Superman died in BvS, I wish Batman had died with him. Awful characters and awful "character growth". Amateur director.
    6. myzterius
      June 1, 2018
      Well he disrespected WW with that line
      1. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        I disagree
      2. myzterius
        June 1, 2018
        Why? It was clearly a mistake made by snyder. Even Gal didnt agree because thats not what ww stand for. You guys say shes been working in the shadows, but how will you explain WW84?
      3. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        I don't associate myself with the people that say that. I form my own opinions lol
        Like I said in another comment, "She stands for truth and justice, just like Superman. She always finds the good in people, even when others don't. That's who she is. But you can't just believe all that without a reason. Superman was that reason."
        Superman's sacrifice was the reason she decided to step up and become a hero after a century of shutting herself off. Patty Jenkins is retconning all of Wonder Woman's character development in BvS by doing WW84 and I don't appreciate it. I'm sure it'll be a good movie though.
      4. Myron Kapetanakis
        June 1, 2018
        Don't judge before you see the movie. I wouldn't like that either if they go this way. I believe they wouldn't do it.
      5. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        It's hard not to judge movies before you see them. People already have their minds made up that Aquaman and Shazam will suck. I already have my mind made up that Captain Marvel will suck. It's just the way people are. It's also why they release trailers.
      6. myzterius
        June 1, 2018
        "Superman's sacrifice was the reason she decided to step up and become a hero after a century of shutting herself off"
        But thats exactly why its an issue. WW would never step away from humanity, she doesn't need supes as a reason to keep going, thats out of character, like every other heroes in bvs tbh.
      7. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        Everyone needs a reason to act a certain way. Wonder Woman being compassionate for the sake of being compassionate is boring. We need real substance. That's why her character developed that way. Just like Superman. He can't just be a Boy Scout for no reason. There would be no character development if they started out that way.
      8. myzterius
        June 1, 2018
        Mos was enough to have the boy scout type of supes, BVS regressed the character and made him unlikable and boring. I dont think you need 3 movies to have a character act like himself.
        As for WW, what was her reason to come help fight doomsday? People say that she came back due to supes sacrifice, but she came to fight before he died.
      9. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        The only difference between this universe and previous Superman movies is that there are actual consequences for everything. Killing Zod had consequences. People didn't trust him until he gave his life for them. How was he boring? He was conflicted throughout the movie. He loved the people of Earth but they didn't love him. I don't see how that makes him boring.
        Wonder Woman joined the battle because of Bruce. She knew she could trust him so she followed him to battle. She also knew that if Doomsday wasn't stopped, it would be the end of the world. At least, that's my interpretation.
      10. myzterius
        June 1, 2018
        "Killing Zod had consequences. "
        What were the consequences? None
        "People didn't trust him until he gave his life for them"
        False, superman is loved throughout the movie by most of the citizens.
        "People didn't trust him until he gave his life for them."
        That is also false. A hero doesnt need to die in order to get praise for saving them. You mean to tell that if supes had defeated doomsday without dying, they wouldn't trust him? Sounds pretty dumb to me tbh.
        "How was he boring? He was conflicted throughout the movie. He loved the people of Earth but they didn't love him. I don't see how that makes him boring."
        He was moping around throughout the whole movie with no sense of hope or joy. The people on earth did love him, except for influential people who saw him as a threat becaise of his superiority.
        "
        Wonder Woman joined the battle because of Bruce. She knew she could trust him so she followed him to battle. She also knew that if Doomsday wasn't stopped, it would be the end of the world. At least, that's my interpretation."
        She barely had any interaction with Bruce, and she already trust him enough to break her 100 years strike? I doubt that. Im pretty sure there were other world threatening battles throughout history other than doomsday, like world war 2, or the other monsters she claimed to have killed prior to BVS. Where was she when Zod was destroying the world with the world engine? I guess it wasnt threatening enough.
      11. Schuyler Finley
        June 1, 2018
        What were the consequences? None
        That he's truly the last of his kind. Remember that he spent a majority of the film searching for answers of his heritage and when he finally finds the answers, he has to fight his people.
        So i guess we're gonna ignore the crowd who was protesting when he arrived at the capital and the footage of people burning a fake Superman.
        "That is also false. A hero doesnt need to die in order to get praise for saving them. You mean to tell that if supes had defeated doomsday without dying, they wouldn't trust him? Sounds pretty dumb to me tbh."
        Let me read my Bible right quick.
        "He was moping around throughout the whole movie with no sense of hope or joy. The people on earth did love him, except for influential people who saw him as a threat becaise of his superiority."
        https://youtu.be/Th3WcAVCaKo
        https://youtu.be/snzSAsS_42s
        https://youtu.be/5APyiK_OKJY
        "She barely had any interaction with Bruce, and she already trust him enough to break her 100 years strike? I doubt that. Im pretty sure there were other world threatening battles throughout history other than doomsday, like world war 2, or the other monsters she claimed to have killed prior to BVS. Where was she when Zod was destroying the world with the world engine? I guess it wasnt threatening enough."
        You do realize that nobody knew where Zod was terraform at. This like complaining why Aquaman didn't help. Diana could've been in Paris for all we know. By the time she would've gotten to Metropolis, the fight would've already had been over.
      12. myzterius
        June 2, 2018
        "That he's truly the last of his kind. Remember that he spent a majority of the film searching for answers of his heritage and when he finally finds the answers, he has to fight his people."
        Consequences isnt the right word.
        "So i guess we're gonna ignore the crowd who was protesting when he arrived at the capital and the footage of people burning a fake Superman."
        I didn't say everybody loved him. Also, the main reason they hated him was because Lex framed him and made him seem to be a murderer.
        "Let me read my Bible right quick."
        Go ahead, if you think superman man and jesus have the same story, you might want to read it again.
        "You do realize that nobody knew where Zod was terraform at. This like complaining why Aquaman didn't help. Diana could've been in Paris for all we know. By the time she would've gotten to Metropolis, the fight would've already had been over."
        I was just giving you an example.
      13. KnightReign
        June 1, 2018
        I don't think consequences is the right word to use when describing his killing of Zod and its repercussions. Killing Zod made Kal realized no one has the right to play judge jury and executioner.
        He was exercising this new found realization when he confronted Bruce for taking actions he felt were unjust. We now know Lex was using fear anger and a few other adjectives to manipulate both Kal and Bruce in to conflict with each other.
      14. Kerk Lastnameless
        June 1, 2018
        No, it didn't. In no way is that addressed in BvS. In no way. You're just writing Snyder's movie for him. Fact is, a poignant moment in a movie is supposed to serve the protagonist's development. And I defended it at first, that's exactly what I was saying -- sure, just like in the comics now he will realize the heavy weight of taking a live and will try to avoid doing it at all costs. Does he? No. Movie does not tell or show that. Movie does not even mention it. On the contrary, he kills a guy.
        https://youtu.be/xpOAGlncHS...
      15. Kouglof
        June 1, 2018
        "On the contrary, he kills a guy"
        https://uploads.disquscdn.c...
      16. Kerk Lastnameless
        June 1, 2018
        I don't care about what he says on the internet. It's not in the movie. And if it's not in the movie, I'm left with the only reasonable inference -- you ram a person through a brick wall -- he dies.
      17. NinjaGamer13
        June 2, 2018
        Go watch the bathtub scene with Lois and Clark again. He kills no one.
        And I never assumed that guy died in the first place; pushing him through a wall or breaking a wall while flying him through the hole =/= death. Injuries, sure, but not death necessarily.
      18. Nahuel Benvenuto
        June 2, 2018
        If you watch the movie is obvious he did not kill him, idiot
      19. Kerk Lastnameless
        June 2, 2018
        Suck dick.
      20. KnightReign
        June 1, 2018
        I can't make you see or understand what I did when it comes to this movie, to mE it was clearly addressed...and seeing how we never saw the man after they went through the wall, I'm going with the glass is half empty and Kal didn't kill him.
      21. NinjaGamer13
        June 2, 2018
        He literally says he killed no one in the desert during the bathtub scene with Lois, by the way.
      22. NinjaGamer13
        June 2, 2018
        The movie literally says he didn’t kill anyone in the desert. Stop lying to justify your blind hatred.
      23. Kerk Lastnameless
        June 2, 2018
        No, it doesn't, you professional liar. He says, "I didn't kill those men," he doesn't say "I didn't kill anybody." You spin the phrase "I walked away from mankind" into "I was helping from the shadows," And have the nerve to accuse me of lying. Get lost and don't reply to me anymore.
      24. NinjaGamer13
        June 4, 2018
        I sincerely hope you're joking. I want you to step back and read what you just wrote. Surely this is a joke, right?
      25. NinjaGamer13
        June 2, 2018
        Wow, I didn’t realize you misunderstood the movie so severely, dude. No wonder you didn’t like it...
      26. Nahuel Benvenuto
        June 2, 2018
        All the cunts that dislike Snyder movies is because they did not understand them and make up flaws about them
      27. Hunter Zolomon
        June 2, 2018
        Talk about acting like a child there haha
      28. myzterius
        June 2, 2018
        Lol here we go again. Explain to me the part i did not get about the movie? Which part exactly?
      29. NinjaGamer13
        June 4, 2018
        I don't think I read a single true thing in that entire comment. You might want to consider a re-watch.
      30. myzterius
        June 4, 2018
        No thx, it was bad enough the first and second time.
      31. BugsMeany
        June 2, 2018
        > She barely had any interaction with Bruce, and she already trust him enough to break her 100 years strike? I doubt that.
        He got (a digital version of) the photo she was looking for, and was going to keep her secret? I guess.
      32. BugsMeany
        June 2, 2018
        > Killing Zod had consequences. People didn't trust him until he gave his life for them.
        Killing a genocidal villain made people mistrust him?
      33. ginger gypo
        June 1, 2018
        Exactly!
      34. Trevor
        December 14, 2018
        Wonder Woman said she was still around whenever she was needed and she doesn’t need a inspiration
      35. Kouglof
        June 1, 2018
        "Even Gal didnt agree"
        I disagree about how Gal Gadot and Henry Cavill were sold to promote JL. This "Snyder line" has never disturbed me as it did to some people here. A little copy/past of movie quotes that I previously did:
        Wonder Woman (BvS): "A hundred years ago, I walked away from mankind, from a century of horrors. Men made a world where standing together is impossible."
        Sir Patrick/Ares (Wonder Woman): "I am the only one who truly knows you, and who truly knows them [humans] as you now do. They [humans] always been and will always be weak, cruel, selfish and capable of greatest horrors. All I ever wanted was the Gods to see how evil my father's creation [mankind] was."
      36. Myron Kapetanakis
        June 1, 2018
        What about the "I've killed things from other worlds before" line? Was that disrespectful too?
      37. myzterius
        June 1, 2018
        Sorry, youre not making any sense.
      38. Myron Kapetanakis
        June 1, 2018
        The two lines "I've killed things from other worlds before" and ""A hundred years ago, I walked away from mankind," set up her back story before BVS. She didn't act publicly but she did acted, something that will be the theme of the WW sequel somehow.
        How does this disrespect the character?
      39. myzterius
        June 1, 2018
        How did she kill things from other worlds, but walked away from mankind at the same time? Did she go to mars or something?
      40. Myron Kapetanakis
        June 1, 2018
        I don't know. Lets wait for the movie to find out.
      41. myzterius
        June 1, 2018
        Thats the thing, we wont find out because Patty will dismiss what zach established, because that was a mistake. The only way to make that work, is to ignore that she stepped away from humanity etc. Having a WW84 will retcon that all on its own. Which is great!
      42. Myron Kapetanakis
        June 1, 2018
        Or maybe we will find out because the movie will be about a secret, personal mission away from the public eye.
        Remember, she is supposed to get a new costume in the movie. Probaply something that helps her to keep her identity secret.
        I would prefer that, but it would be ok if they don't. As long as the movie is good.
      43. Nahuel Benvenuto
        June 2, 2018
        You are an ignorant idiot that blinds himself to the facts so the narrative can fit your point of view
      44. NinjaGamer13
        June 2, 2018
        Stayed. Out. Of. The. Global. Spotlight. How many times does this have to be explained.
      45. Hunter Zolomon
        June 2, 2018
        She never hints or implies that in BvS though, we only know she did because JL had to fix that mistake from BvS.
      46. NinjaGamer13
        June 4, 2018
        That very well may be what happened behind the scenes, sure, but the canon remains the same, and nothing is being truly "ignored" or "retconned," simply interpreted differently, if that's the case. So the complaints are unnecessary, either way.
        However, I would imagine Snyder was on board for this - change or not - considering the "I've killed things from other worlds before" line, the fact that there were people on this site even who interpreted the "walked away" line that way from the very beginning, the fact he helped with the story of WW which seems to suggest she had a continual superhero career from then on in the ending, and the presence of the apparent fighting-from-the-shadows interpretation being applied in Bruce and Diana's argument in JL (though that might have been a Whedon scene, I don't know).
      47. Nahuel Benvenuto
        June 2, 2018
        Not at all, you should read some WW comic books before talking
      48. Hunter Zolomon
        June 2, 2018
        Why don't you because you clearly don't.
  4. Seb is a Socialist
    June 1, 2018
    it was partially retconed in justice league.
    1. Hunter Zolomon
      June 1, 2018
      Yeah it was but the question is would Snyder's Cut have addressed this as well?
      1. jrvc
        June 1, 2018
        Maybe, we know now about many things which were to be concluded there that we didn't get (Knightmare sstuff for example), so this could very well be another bit thrown out
      2. Seb is a Socialist
        June 1, 2018
        thats a good question. if one is ever released we will have our answer.
    2. Talia
      June 1, 2018
      I thought they carried through with what was done in BvS, what with Bruce Wayne pointing out Diana's hypocrisy.
      1. Seb is a Socialist
        June 1, 2018
        the first scene said that then there was a follow up ms ghul
  5. Kouglof
    June 1, 2018
    Gal Gadot and Henry Cavill sold their soul to the devil during JL promotion.
  6. Nahuel Benvenuto
    June 2, 2018
    She gets paid to say whatever her bosses need her to say
5. Seb is a Socialist
  June 1, 2018
  they retconed in justice league dumbass.
  1. Reverse_Flash
    June 1, 2018
    BvS should be retconned.
    1. Seb
      June 1, 2018
      lmao
    2. Seb is a Socialist
      June 1, 2018
      honestly not surprised u picked tom cavanagh as your profile pic. ive heard hes a piece of shit in real life especially towards some of the cast members of flash.
      1. Seb
        June 1, 2018
        Really? Where did you hear that? If he was that annoying, I'm sure they wouldn't have brought him back for 4 seasons.
      2. Seb is a Socialist
        June 2, 2018
        what difference does offset behavior make? they kept shatner and lord knows he was a jackass. same with charlie sheen for anger managment.
      3. Reverse_Flash
        June 2, 2018
        It's Eobard Thawne, you dummy.
      4. Seb is a Socialist
        June 2, 2018
        why pick an asshole for your profile pic? i mean seriously he has reportedly been an asshole to candice patton. guess if the shoe fits.
      5. Reverse_Flash
        June 2, 2018
        Why does it matter?
        Why are you so triggered?
      6. Seb is a Socialist
        June 2, 2018
        i mean srsly. why pick a genuine piece of shit to represent you on this site. lordi knows that aint u man :)
      7. Reverse_Flash
        June 2, 2018
        Again, why so triggered?
        People's avatars is something very silly to get mad about.
      8. Seb is a Socialist
        June 2, 2018
        im just curious lolz. i dont think its a coincidence.
      9. Reverse_Flash
        June 2, 2018
        You're weird.
      10. Seb is a Socialist
        June 2, 2018
        and youre hot. so take off your fkin pants.
6. KnightReign
  June 1, 2018
  To mE it seemed she didn't take what was happening in the world so personally anymore, until this new movie. I suspect it's something personal between her and cheetah that puts in the spotlight again.
  It's all a matter of perspective. I think she would say that because she participated in one of mankind's wars and seen firsthand humanities shortcomings. Her naivete is what causes her to act in the first place, thinking Ares was the sole reason for the conflict in WW. Disillusionment with humanity isn't a far stretch for this character seeing all she has been through.
7. Kouglof
  June 1, 2018
  Wonder Woman (BvS): "A hundred years ago, I walked away from mankind, from a century of
  horrors. Men made a world where standing together is impossible."
  Sir Patrick/Ares (Wonder Woman): "I am the only one who truly knows you, and who truly knows them [humans] as you now do. They [humans] always been and will always be weak, cruel, selfish and capable of greatest horrors. All I ever wanted was the Gods to see how evil my father's creation [mankind] was."
  1. Reverse_Flash
    June 1, 2018
    ???
    1. Kouglof
      June 1, 2018
      Your interpretation is that Wonder Woman has never come back after World War 1 for 100 years and then made a second appearance among mankind "in 2015" (in BvS). But as we can see in BvS, she's not living on her island, but with humans.
      My interpretation is that Wonder Woman thought that mankind was good by nature, that killing Ares would change everything, but she learns during this encounter, 100 hundred years ago, that humans are not all so good and can do horrible things (world wars, genocides, atomic bomb etctera), she believes that humanity is strongly divided (cultures, believes, religions etc).
      I don't see a paradox like you do. Of course, I'm not taking this stuff as "seriously" as you do neither.
      1. NinjaGamer13
        June 2, 2018
        You’re taking it more seriously. Instead of appreciating a story, these people are just looking for excuses to tear another human being down. That’s all they do.
      2. Reverse_Flash
        June 2, 2018
        I don't know how you can possible get to that conclussion based on a line like "I walked away from mankind".
        Walking away isn't the same as learning something. Walking away implies taking action on something. Whether that means not being a super hero anymore or just giving up hope on people, they are both paradoxical to what happens in WW and now WW84.
        She tells Ares "you're wrong about them, they're everything you say, but so much more. I believe in love". So, even when she has learned humanity can be terrible, she clearly isn't giving up on them (otherwise she wouldn't disagree with Ares). Now with a movie set in 1984 we also know she didn't stop being WW for 100 years.
        So in any interpretation that line is contradictory, as she didn't walk away from mankind in any way. There's a reason that line was pretty much retconned. Even Gal admitted it was a mistake.
8. Trevor
  June 2, 2018
  Don't say that and Cheetah will be the villain in WW 2
9. FUN
  June 2, 2018
  Yeah! Snyder should've sticked to canon DCEU. Didn't he get the memo from Jenkins??
  1. Reverse_Flash
    June 2, 2018
    If the canon is stupid then it deserves to be ignored.
10. Nahuel Benvenuto
  June 2, 2018
  Do you realize that is WB choices what make the line make less sense because they are changing everything, right?
  1. Reverse_Flash
    June 2, 2018
    Why wouldnt't they?
    The Snyderverse was a mess.
11. Bobsonbob Bobsonbob
  June 3, 2018
  Lmao! You just like starting arguments in the comments.
12. Trevor
  June 4, 2018
  Trevor
13. Trevor
  June 4, 2018
  I fought always when I was needed but to lead and step into into the light and say to people.
14. Trevor
  December 14, 2018
  I was around always when I was needed and this why WW84 is happening
ItzSilentStorm
June 1, 2018
could just be a confirmation of the year it takes place. Not big on that being title. Really would have loved WW Returns or something. Oh well
1. thefallen83
  June 1, 2018
  Someone likes the 80's Batman titles :P
2. BatmanNewsChris
  June 1, 2018
  They wouldn't release a logo just to tell you what year the movie takes place. They already said it's in the 80s. But I'm with you. I was hoping for "Wonder Woman Returns", just for the Batman connection.
  1. Godspeed
    June 1, 2018
    Thats not a Batman connection. or was Superman Returns a Batman connection too? Or Deathstroke Returns (episode title of an episode in Arrow Season 6). Very unlikely.
    1. BatmanNewsChris
      June 1, 2018
      Everything is related to Batman as far as I'm concerned! ;)
      1. Godspeed
        June 1, 2018
        Fair enough :P
      2. Hunter Zolomon
        June 1, 2018
        6 Degrees of Batman.
      3. Kouglof
        June 1, 2018
        50 Shades of Batman.
      4. Hunter Zolomon
        June 1, 2018
        There is a lot of similarities between him and Grey so....
      5. Kouglof
        June 1, 2018
        "There is a lot of similarities between him and Grey so...."
        They wear grey?... and Batman's grey costume's shades are "Darker" in JL?...
      6. Schuyler Finley
        June 1, 2018
        Yeah. Batman doesn't seem like the type who likes whips and chains. He only stalked WW cause she stole the hard drive from him, but he didn't pressure her into doing something that she didn't want to do.
      7. Hunter Zolomon
        June 1, 2018
        Both billionaire good looking playboys, have dark secrets, parent troubles, have a fetish for dark leather, have secret hideaways what hide their dark secrets etc. I'm pretty sure Honest Trailers in their Fifty Shades Of Grey video pointed out how close Grey and Wayne are haha, sure did make me laugh.
      8. Kouglof
        June 1, 2018
        Despite the title and the "reputation", I know nothing about Fifty Shades Of Grey. Honest Trailers video was funny :)
      9. Hunter Zolomon
        June 2, 2018
        I only know the films as my GF dragged me to everyone of them, if it wasn't for the female lead being quite hot i think i would topped myself haha
      10. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        I bet he's into some really kinky stuff.
      11. Myron Kapetanakis
        June 1, 2018
        https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Nightwing Fan J
June 1, 2018
Wow. They're so confident in their Wonder Woman that they announced 83 sequels! That's a pretty ballsy move.
greenarrowfan1
June 1, 2018
if they using the dysfunctional govt and survillenance theme it not the first movie to do that even with comic book genre.
both winter soldier and the dark knight touch on it.
1. Rust
  June 1, 2018
  What's wrong with that? I didn't mind Winter Soldier doing it when TDK already did it. A good story is a good story.
  1. NinjaGamer13
    June 2, 2018
    And it’s not like they were even told in remotely similar ways. Just had some themes in common is all. And they’re definitely good themes to explore!
lowdevil
June 1, 2018
I actually kinda like that. Not to mention, personally, 84 held great memories for me.
Godspeed
June 1, 2018
Just watch how rabid the Snyder fans will get if Patty Jenkins basically ignores everything Zack ever established for WW in BvS and JL and has Diana being the iconic Wonder Woman who inspires people all around the world back in 1984 lol. Not to mention that it also would pretty much annihilate anything ever established in Man of Steel.
or if they straight up ignore the DCEU completely with this movie and just make it a stand alone movie.
1. BatmanNewsChris
  June 1, 2018
  That’s exactly what they’re doing.
  1. Godspeed
    June 1, 2018
    They ignore DCEU continuity ? completely ? I was being sarcastic. They would not actually do that wouldn't they ? I always figured there would not be much in the way of tie ins but it would still align with the established continuity (much like what James Gunn did with Guardians of the Galaxy or what Iron Man 3 did)
    1. BatmanNewsChris
      June 1, 2018
      Yeah, Jenkins isn’t going to be held back by any story elements from Snyder’s movies. She’s going to create the Wonder Woman she wants to.
      1. Kaingerc
        June 1, 2018
        probably for the best.
        from what I got from Snyder's Wonder Woman is that after WWI she basically went into a coma or something because "War Is Heck"?
      2. KnightReign
        June 1, 2018
        I didn't get that at all after watching BvS and WW. To mE it seemed she didn't take what was happening in the world so personally anymore until this new movie. I suspect it's something personal between her and cheetah that puts in the spotlight again.
      3. Kerk Lastnameless
        June 1, 2018
        A WW who can stand by while the Germans and Japanese burn people is no WW.
      4. Schuyler Finley
        June 1, 2018
        Or maybe she was so horrified by the horrors that WW had brought, she walked away once the war was over.
      5. Kerk Lastnameless
        June 1, 2018
        That would contradict the ending of her movie.
      6. Schuyler Finley
        June 1, 2018
        Not really. That was her reasserting herself at the end. She can talk about how what made her forget her mission, i.r. seeing millions of people and children being gassed and tortured by Nazis.
      7. Kerk Lastnameless
        June 1, 2018
        What? As usual, you're not making sense. The end of the movie clearly tells us that inspired by Steve's sacrifice, she regains her faith in humanity and it is further strengthened when she sees people stop fighting and just awkwardly trying to make peace. And now you're telling me she gave up on humanity later on when seeing Nazies burning children?
        So, unless I misunderstood something, you're an idiot.
      8. Schuyler Finley
        June 1, 2018
        You do know how delicate the human psyche is, right? You honestly cannot fathom that Diana became mentally drained after being a part of two global wars, one worse than the previous one, seeing millions of people dying from the orders of one man, and then failing to stop a nuclear explosion?
        Yeah, most war veterans would sympathize with her for giving up after enduring that.
      9. Kerk Lastnameless
        June 1, 2018
        Yeah, you continue not making sense. Tell you what, I'm gonna try not to respond to you in the future, ok?
      10. Schuyler Finley
        June 1, 2018
        Kerk, you cannot be this ignorant.
      11. Kerk Lastnameless
        June 1, 2018
        I'm trying not to respond, can you help me by not responding in turn?
      12. Schuyler Finley
        June 1, 2018
        Yeah you really are ignorant.
      13. Kerk Lastnameless
        June 1, 2018
        Damn, you just wont stop! What a fukar!..
      14. KnightReign
        June 1, 2018
        Perhaps or perhaps she was fighting another battle somewhere else. I remember the line I've killed monsters from other worlds before. Maybe she went to another world and battle a monster or one threatened Themyscira during the same time who knows. Thing is, her story is wide open.
      15. Kerk Lastnameless
        June 1, 2018
        I'm totally fine if she went to some other world or was stuck somewhere fighting monsters during WWII. I'm not fine with her just standing by during WWII.
      16. KnightReign
        June 1, 2018
        Women are complicated, a supernatural woman probably more so and I'm sure her reasons for staying out of the war would be just as complicated.
      17. Hunter Zolomon
        June 1, 2018
        Good as she completely understands the character far better then him.
  2. Mark
    June 1, 2018
    It's 1984, she's operating in the Soviet Union, they deny everything. 1984 was even pre-Gorbachev and they were still in full blown Evil Empire mode, being led by the guy who was in the wrestling ring with Reagan in the "Two Tribes" video.
    I think it's interesting to note, too, that what Patty created in WW doesn't necessarily negate what was established in MoS. Yes, Wonder Woman appeared in the No Man's Land scene, but that was more balls (and shield with godly abilities), except for swatting away the mortar shell and that may not have been noticed by the soldiers. She definitely did superheroic things in the village, but everyone there was gassed to death. So it's entirely possible that, so far as the world was concerned, the Battle of Metropolis was the first time they had seen anything like that.
    Admittedly, it's a hard thing to do with all the retcons over the years. Man of Steel did the right thing: the DCEU literally begins with the birth of Kal-El. But how, then, do you layer the history in with that?
  3. NinjaGamer13
    June 1, 2018
    I think the argument between Bruce and her in JL suggests otherwise. They’re simply going to be reinterpreting her BvS line in order to have her be a superhero, but just not in the global spotlight - like Clark before he dons the suit in MoS. It’s a good plan. If they abandon that plan, it’ll be bad writing when they could’ve preserved the canon so easily by keeping to it.
    1. myzterius
      June 1, 2018
      They cant
      1. NinjaGamer13
        June 2, 2018
        ??
    2. BatmanNewsChris
      June 1, 2018
      I'm just not expecting her to be creatively held back by a couple of lines from BvS and JL. Gadot already expressed her displeasure with it, so I think they're just going to do their own thing going forward.
      1. NinjaGamer13
        June 2, 2018
        We’ll find out! It’s not like it’s necessarily that restricting :P Hopefully she chooses to stick with the situation planted in JL in order to preserve the canon.
2. ItzSilentStorm
  June 1, 2018
  it doesn't really have anything to do with being specifically Zack Snyder who came up with this idea. Rather its that we are officially breaking canon and the timeline does not make sense now. This is why I kept defending flashpoint. If they are not going to move forward with Zack's initial vision, they should flashpoint the continuity so the directors can do whatever the hell they want and will actually make sense.
Guy
June 1, 2018
Good move. Can’t go wrong with the retro vibes of the 80s, it’s been coming back lately
BatGod
June 1, 2018
Hope there will be a Batman cameo in it like the first one because it seems that we won't see a Batman movie for a long time.
1. Myron Kapetanakis
  June 1, 2018
  Since its 1984 there would be a cameo of Thomas Wayne.
  1. BatGod
    June 1, 2018
    Nice point but the first one was even before 1984 but it still managed to have a Batman cameo in it LOL.
    1. Myron Kapetanakis
      June 1, 2018
      I know, but her meeting with Thomas Wayne would be much fun. I am pretty sure there wouldn't be any cameo however.
2. ZaQueerdo
  June 1, 2018
  Unless it's something that actually serves the story I'd rather they let this movie be its own thing.
3. OptimistPrime99
  June 1, 2018
  Matt Reeves should be ready by the beginning of next year. One of the few things WB has gotten right with the behind the scenes DCEU stuff, was pursuing Matt Reeves as quickly as they did, after Affleck bailed.
gabi bats
June 1, 2018
Its okay... I guess
Cash
June 1, 2018
I like it. For comic book fans, it evokes titles like "Batman '66" or "Wonder Woman '77." For the rest of the world, it's fresh and original.
1. Hunter Zolomon
  June 1, 2018
  "For comic book fans, it evokes titles like "Batman '66" or "Wonder Woman '77." Pretty much what i thought off.
Qthetar .
June 1, 2018
It sounds good.
jrvc
June 1, 2018
Different but sounds good. Maybe she has an encounter with the T-100? ;p
1. Myron Kapetanakis
  June 1, 2018
  Well, thats a crossover I wanna see.
That Guy That You Hate To Love
June 1, 2018
Very cool. WW 2 may have a chance to be better than Captain Marvel because it will be set in a very politically charged time period and it will obviously be partial to its story, while, from how it seems, Captain Marvel's setting in the 90's will be just a precedent for nostalgic name-drops and gags.
1. Nightwing Fan J
  June 1, 2018
  There's no doubt in my mind that WW2 will be better than Captain Marvel.
  1. That Guy That You Hate To Love
    June 1, 2018
    Yeah. Captain Marvel is said to be "action comedy", and... As someone who actually likes Carol Danvers as a character, that's a bummer. My worst fear, they will turn her into Mary Sue, who she wasn't in the comics that I've read. She is actually an ex-alcoholic with anger management issues.
    1. Nightwing Fan J
      June 1, 2018
      She should be powerful. Like really powerful. When you put a character like that in a comedy, their power is belittled. Just like Thanos is Infinity War. The constant jokes made him seem less powerful.
      1. That Guy That You Hate To Love
        June 1, 2018
        Thor Ragnarok is a clear example of that.
      2. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        Hulk was the biggest joke in that entire movie.
      3. OptimistPrime99
        June 1, 2018
        That's way more more of a valid criticism for Ultron. Thanos wasn't comedic at all. They played up the emotional stuff between Thanos and Gamora. And he definitely was powerful enough. He made the Hulk his b!tch.
      4. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        Sorry, I should've been more clear. I did not mean that Thanos was a comedic character. In fact, just about everything Thanos did was perfect. I meant that since the other characters acted like the situation wasn't serious, he seemed less threatening.
      5. OptimistPrime99
        June 1, 2018
        Really?! I thought the balance was fine. If the humor mostly works for me, then I'm not gonna hold it against a superhero movie, particularly a MCU movie, where I know what I'm getting. Drax pretending to be invisible, while eating popcorn and watching Quill and Gamora kiss, was really funny. You had your serious moments with the great Iron Man death tease, which got a holy sh!t gasp out of most people. And the villain actually won!😦
      6. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        The Drax scene totally ruined the emotional value of the interaction between Peter and Gamora. They were literally talking about how he needed to kill her if she was captured and all of a sudden we have a gag scene that lasts as long as their conversation. I'm extremely happy that the movie ended with Thanos winning. That final scene was incredibly beautiful. He said earlier in the movie that his wish was for one day to watch the sun set on a thankful universe. That's exactly what the final scene was. It was breathtaking.
      7. Hunter Zolomon
        June 1, 2018
        Thanos was never once played for laughs and his actions showed he was the most powerful villain in the MCU, hell many are saying Thanos is one of the best villains in a comic book film and i agree he is. God Thanos in his opening scene beats the shit out of Hulk who has previously shown to be one of the strongest characters in the MCU, killed one of the bigger characters from the Thor films and then graphically strangled and killed one of the most popular characters in the MCU. He then for the rest of the film shown a great deal of depth and defeated every single character who went up against him as well actually winning and doing what he planned to do.
      8. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        I meant that the other characters didn't take the threat seriously. The best scene in the entire movie is with him and Gamora getting the Soul Stone. It gave me chills and I actually teared up.
      9. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        And it's one of the few deep scenes not interrupted by a joke
      10. Hunter Zolomon
        June 1, 2018
        Well in fairness i thought the characters just acted in character, Strange and Stark may have made some remarks but they were clearly scared shitless of Thanos, i actually thought Thanos and Stark's scenes together were really well done especially with the way Thanos treats Stark (notice how he acts like a farther with everyone else and refers to them as children and stuff but never does with Stark and actually treats him as an equal). Star Lord and Spidey may have cracked jokes but that's just keeping in with who they are, it wouldn't make sense if they didn't. The final 10 mins though were extremely serious with him taking everyone out with complete ease and then just doing the snap what then led to a very revealing moment between him and Gamora in the Soul stone.
      11. Nightwing Fan J
        June 1, 2018
        It might just be me, but I believe that the moment the fights start, it's time for them to get serious. Unless you're Deadpool, Red Hood, or someone like them, you probably shouldn't be joking around. An example of one time where the jokes were necessary was when Thanos was holding Gamora in a headlock telling Starlord to shoot. Peter was breaking down emotionally. Humor is a defense mechanism for him. That scene was done really, really well.
      12. Hunter Zolomon
        June 1, 2018
        Depends really, Stark never actually tries to be funny in the film and we laugh more because of how RDJ says his lines and the fact us the audience find it funny, when he calls Peter a dipshit i and the whole cinema i was in let out a massive laugh because the context of it was funny and the way RDJ said it but in the film itself its not a joke from Stark but him being extremely pissed off. Other jokes used against Thanos are actually in the film are used more as insults then trying to be funny, when Strange says "yes your much more of a Thanos" he isn't saying that to be funny but saying it as a put down.
        The characters who joke tend to be the characters who would joke like Spidey who always jokes around when fighting, that's a key trait of his in the comics where he just pisses of his enemies because he just winds them up with constant jokes and insults, in the film Spidey is young and just can't keep his mouth shut and again that's very much how Spidey is. Rocket makes wise cracks but again that's just him and he does enjoy being in a fight, he does have a fairly serious scene though with Thor so the film does know when to tone the humor down with Thor or Rocket.
        On the other hand though Cap, Bucky, Panther, Vision and Wanda are completely serious and take it very serious, yes Cap had that joke with Groot but again its a joke for us and not for them, its funny because Cap doesn't know Groot can only say that so when Groot says "i am Groot" Steve is just simply saying "i am Steve Rogers", he says it that way more because Groot is a alien talking tree so Steve is just saying how Groot said it because Steve might assume he would understand that better.
        I agree not all the humor worked, i found the rivalry between Peter and Thor to be really forced and i really didn't like the Drax joke of him standing still and being invisible (i do love the "i do you one better, why is Gamora" line though). Overall though i found the film really balanced with the light hearted stuff and dark serious stuff, it knew when to be funny and when not to be and it knew not spoil serious scenes with a joke or something.
= ( ^___^) +
June 1, 2018
Hmmm. Maybe they can have WW followijg a lead through First Avenue, superimpose scenes from Purple Rain 🙄
Hunter Zolomon
June 1, 2018
Wonder Woman 1984 or Wonder Woman '84 would actually be pretty nice, i got no problems with that at all.
1. Nightwing Fan J
  June 1, 2018
  My biggest concern is that they probably won't be able to reuse Cheetah after it. I want her to be a part of the Legion of Doom. Maybe they'll do something with magic?
  1. Hunter Zolomon
    June 1, 2018
    Maybe she gets reverted back to Minerva at the end? Or maybe she's locked away somewhere?
    1. Nightwing Fan J
      June 1, 2018
      Maybe. I just really don't want her to be a throwaway villain.
      1. Hunter Zolomon
        June 1, 2018
        I agree as she's one of my favorite WW villains.
  2. Myron Kapetanakis
    June 1, 2018
    Why is that? Because Cheetah will be old at the modern times?
    Maybe she doesn't age?
    1. Nightwing Fan J
      June 1, 2018
      Aging is exactly the reason I'm concerned. She was transformed by a god, so maybe she doesn't age. There's probably nothing to worry about.
      1. Myron Kapetanakis
        June 1, 2018
        Yes, it's magic!
  3. ZaQueerdo
    June 1, 2018
    Honestly, that's not a big concern of mine. One of the biggest problems this franchise has had is getting ahead of itself when it comes to setting up stuff for future movies.
    Let Wonder Woman 2 be a standalone feature without having to worry about future team-ups, I say.
  4. ginger gypo
    June 1, 2018
    I absolutely don't want Cheetah to be in the Legion of Doom henching for Lex Luthor, it's beneath her
    1. Kouglof
      June 1, 2018
      "I absolutely don't want Cheetah to be in the Legion of Doom henching for Lex Luthor, it's beneath her"
      https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ditm...
      1. ginger gypo
        June 1, 2018
        I know she was part of the Legion of Doom, and I absolutely hated it
      2. Kouglof
        June 1, 2018
        "I know she was part of the Legion of Doom, and I absolutely hated it"
        I don't know if it's nostalgia, but I've absolutely loved it, especially the scenes where Batman tricks her.
        I didn't like Cheetah in Justice League New52, everything was nonesense, she beats every Justice League members, she's faster than The Flash, she bites Superman, Superman transforms into a cheetahman... thanks Geoff Johns...
      3. ginger gypo
        June 1, 2018
        Cheetah has always been faster than Wonder Woman, who has the speed of Hermes, which puts Cheetah on par with Flash. The only thing that didn't make sense about her new 52 incarnation is how she was depicted ie as a Leapord woman, as opposed to a Cheetah
      4. ZaQueerdo
        June 1, 2018
        Yeah the problem isn't that the New 52 made Cheetah too strong, it's that everyone else makes her far too weak. Outside of the actual Wonder Woman books Cheetah has a reputation for being treated like a joke villain.
      5. ginger gypo
        June 2, 2018
        exactly, Cheetah is the avatar of a God, her powers are divine
IamTheOneWhoKnocks
June 1, 2018
I love it. This could be better than the first movie with the 80's vibe....can't wait!
Kryptonian Knight
June 1, 2018
That is definitely better than Wonder Woman The Amazonian Vagina Diaries.
1. NinjaGamer13
  June 2, 2018
  Didn’t realize that was in the running
Arkham Psyche
June 1, 2018
Lol, I love the Orwell ref and possibly tone, I’m a big GO fan (down and out in Paris London is his best imo). But aye, the way I see it is the background for this is obviously Reagan era political framework do you’ve Russia, Afghan, Central and South America coupes... loads to work with and yeah , can be a kinda liberal reminder of we’re we are just noo with Donald Duck aka trump
ferdi
June 1, 2018
Mos was enough to have the boy scout type of supes, BVS regressed the character and made him unlikable and boring. I dont think you need 3 movies to have a character act like himself.As for WW, what was her reason to come help fight doomsday? People say that she came back due to supes sacrifice, but she came to fight before he died
1. NinjaGamer13
  June 2, 2018
  You don’t get a cheery Boy Scout when the world hates and fears you.
  Why would WW not come back to help when a literal giant monster is about to destroy the world???
2. attentionisattention
  June 2, 2018
  Came back to help fight a world ending monster, *inspired* to come out of the shadows by Supes sacrifice
Sense
June 1, 2018
That is a fantastic title.

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