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In a blog post, concept artist Andrew Hunt says he was hired to sketch out a lot of attitude and mood concepts for Suicide Squad, and he pretty much nailed it!
In the concept art in the gallery below we get to see a shirtless Joker with a tie, Harley Quinn, and Deadshot. Check it out, and let me know what you think in the comments section.
SOURCE: Andrew Hunt (via ComicBook.com)
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I wish the movie version would have had the points on the corners of his mouth like in these drawings, a constant slight smile rather than just the red lipstick that he ended up with.
Agreed, but they can easily change it because unlike Ledger or Nicholson's Jokers they aren't actually scars or physical damage - he can apply the makeup (or not) as he chooses on the day.
Totally possible, he already plays a bit with his face in SS.
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i always thought that smile was a little bit weird. How its around his mouth, why not just extend the smile? guess he wanted to differ himself from ledger
You mean this scene? I don’t think that’s the case, he's killing time in his hideout waiting for Frost with news of Harley, painting his face with marker and making a collage of guns and drugs on the floor, but there is a call-out to a more classic Joker in his face doodle i think.
I hope they can play around with his look a little and bring him back.
Extremely happy they made Harley's short-shorts less short than they appear in that last picture.
They were fairly "underwear-ish" werent they... maybe thats a new line of Merch. WB wanted to expand into?
JL trailer cannot come soon enough.
It's gonna be lit. So be prepared to get shit on for having an opinion. https://uploads.disquscdn.c...
I honestly think that the JL trailer is going to be so good it's going to break the internet.
Be ready for the " trailers are great, movies suck" argument....
well DC has certainly perfected that concept
I know truth hurts. silly gifs and memes dont change the facts.
Every time a DCEU trailer drops I get super pumped and think "this is the one that changes it all! They're gonna course correct and this movie looks great!"
Then the movie comes out and I think "oh, all the good parts were in the trailer and in the context of the movie, even those are super shitty. Maybe the next movie won't be trash."
How come? the movies are not out yet, not even the trailer is out yet...
Plus, past movies didn’t suck for me, so...facts?........
People like him think if you repeat an opinion enough it magically morphs into a fact. Logic and reasoning give way to delusion and fanaticism.
"I hate these movies so much, I'll hate the next ones for sure."
#Facts #Logic #HackSnyder #ChildhoodRuined
The Punisher and his friends applaud this, they don’t know why.....they just heard they had to clap.....https://uploads.disquscdn.com/image...
Talk about sheep yet you defend literally everything about the DCEU... even some of the hardcore fanboys I know have acknowledged mistakes but you always damage control every thing.
Not at all, i dislike Enchantress being the main villain in SS, ive said many times it had to be the Joker, from day 1...
I wanted more talk between Supes and Batsy before the fight in BvS,..
and i think that's pretty much it, im pleased with the rest.
*Cough* Iron man 3 *Cough* Age of Ultron
Ahhh... Iron Man 3 trailers. So good yet so misleading, and when you finally see the movie... Never mind, actually I don't wanna talk about it.
Marvel can do no wrong they say, they didn't mess up, not even a single time they say.
Funny, they cried so hard for each trailer.. even when the JL teaser came out "too many spoilers"..."so dark"...im not gonna throw my money on Snyder" ...and my favourite..."you are a fanboy for liking this trailer and not finding something to complain about".....
Are you talking about the Marvel Junkies? Sorry I mean Screen Junkies. Cus they're butthurt 24/7.
Frankly, Man of Steel had some of the best trailers of all time, in my opinion, and I don't see how they can make JL's better, given they definitely are going to try to show a more light and fun side of it. I still remember watching MoS's trailers, and how fucking hyped I was for that movie.
I really think it was made by Nolan's trailer company..? if there is one haha
It´s gonna "break" something for sure...
I'm sure the trailer will be great, but the film... not so sure.
Of course u do, because you are a delusional moron who seems tranfixed on moron culture.
When is this "trailer" coming?
They should have gone with the suit and pointed smile. NO. FUCKING. TATTOOS.
Why are they so fixated on having the joker shirtless? Its so stupid
Because girl audience. It is sad that the Joker is now used to attract a younger audience...
i hate this entire merchandise thing thats going on right now...
Look how many jokers and harley quinns costumes are out right now and were used for halloween. A good movie should be the focus
I wish there was some way we could find out just how all those young girls that watched the movie feel about this Joker. So far, they'be been pretty good at keeping it to themselves.
It just makes me cringe
they are showing off the tattoos way to much. There are a lot of scenes where he is shirtless or even his t-shirt is wide open just to show of the tattoos.
well Joker likes his tattoos and wants to show them off.
no the real Joker doesnt
Fine but this fake Joker does. It is what it is we can't change suicide squad now as much as we'd like to. Hopefully they get J right in upcoming movies
fake Joker lol, now you sound like Trump :P
lol how so?
"fake news" - Trump ;)
More like CNN and every other news network, they're the ones who coined that buzzword.
thats not what the focus should be when it comes to the joker..
Why base the Joker's design off this atrocity?
Well that clearly didn't post the picture...
Looks like he's wearing an S & M dog collar.
Compare this nonsense to what we had for Heath Ledger's Joker. Now that was concept art.
well the more clothes Letos Joker wore the better. When he wears the tuxedo he actually does resemble Joker. But when he is shirtless or worse when he wears all those gold chains, jewelry and pimp coats it was just an insult to the characters legacy and fans everywhere. Why can they never just give us a straight CLASSIC Joker in the movies without weird scars, greasepaint, permanent smiles, grills or retarded Marilyn Manson emo looks ?
Arkham Origins had the perfect Joker - classic, iconic, yet also more sinister and modern. How hard can it be to create a Joker design like that for the movie ?! https://uploads.disquscdn.c...
when he actually wears clothes and his damn damaged tattoo would come off he would actually resemble the joker but right now. Someone needs him to stop with this pimp stuff
Well I guess he could have actually been even worst.
worse not worst.
I don't care.
lol he just goes around the site trying to act intelligent but instead embarrasses himself
Lol...agreed! Did not think it was possible, but I was wrong.
I wonder what Joker would have looked like if Snyder was the one that introduced him to this universe. Say what you want about Snyder's characterization, the characters in his movies always look awesome.
Lex and Doomsday sure didn`t. And dont even get me started on Snyders version of Barry Allen.
You have seen five seconds of Snyder's Barry.
You do understand that Lex has had long red/orange hair in the comics before. He looked ripped right out of the pages of Birthright. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-o...
Well why don't we make Batman and Aquaman racists again, they were in the comics and since it happened in the comics for a short while, that makes it acceptable for live action right?
I have no idea how this applies to me discussing the look of a character...
Ups, troll malfunction...please wait...
@disqus_b6qRkkpGeV:disqus:
I agree. Also the characterization of Lex from Birthright informed Jesse Eisenberg's performance.
Personally, I thought he was phenomenal in BVS. He did an excellent job of portraying Lex as someone who's genius is both a blessing and a curse. He's someone who is experiencing a crisis of faith, brought on by paranoia of the Superman and other metahumans. He's a selfish, cruel, manipulative, sociopath who uses his considerable intellect to get what he wants. Sounds like Lex to me. :-)
Sadly, some will never see him as the "real Lex" because he's not a bald, middle-age, man. They also don't like him because he doesn't look like actor Bryan Cranston and he doesn't sound like actor Clancy Brown when he speaks. *sighs*
Different strokes for different folks.
@disqus_WzH0HMSHei:disqus:
Why thank you. :-)
i salute you. this is great.
@Colonel_Neville_Wraithchild:disqus:
Thank you. *takes a bow* :-)
I completely agree! He's hands down been my favorite villain in the DCEU thus far! I really liked Zod, but I fell in love with the psychological complexity of Lex. A man of power and infinite resources, faced down by his own limitations and forced to question if his own existence can in any way match that of a living, breathing god-like being from the sky.
@disqus_b6qRkkpGeV:disqus:
Couldn't have said it better myself! Right on! *high fives you* :-)
this reminds me to the movie "red dragon" when hannibal forces graham to tell him what he thinks of him and graham says lecter is kind of handicapped because no matter how intellingent he is, he's still a psycopath.
@Colonel_Neville_Wraithchild:disqus:
Excellent analogy!
Pretty much the whole idea that there's a very fine line between genius & insanity. Lex in BvS was a brilliant man on the brink. Yes, he managed to "kill God," but I think it meant having to sacrifice his own mental health to do so.
@ElMKShill:disqus:
haha!! I know right?!
His performance really astounded me, and I can honestly say that he's the best comic book villain I've seen in a long time.
Then you aren't very bright, you have that kind of logic because something happened in the comics then that automatically means it should be done in live action.
Yes, I'm clearly the one who's not very bright. I pointed out how they based the looks of Lex from a particular arc, and then you just come in and assume that it must mean that I want every idea or concept that's ever been done to make its way on the big screen. Try harder, bud.
Yeah because taking a look that was done, how many times? Once or maybe twice, a look that isn't even popular and because it happened in the comics, you think it's just okay to bring it to live action
Yup, we'll see how long that lasts. Keep going with that attitude and a reboot will happen after Aquaman.
I thought the "reboot" guys were extinct....guess i was wrong...there are at least 3 of them (i mean 3 accounts from the same guy.......)
I guess we have other 3 to counter argue then so thanks Batmario, Havs and El Kano.
Oh i thought about making more accounts, then i had to make more Email or facebook accounts, and it was too much, i don’t have the time.
Havs seems like a cool fellow, El Kano too, but they are not me, sorry to disappoint, guess the only one is you..
Now i feel like everytime i upvote you, Renno + 2 will think we are the same dude..
Spare me the hyperbole. There's a MAJOR difference in taking influence from a modern interpretation and deciding to set the characters back almost 70 years and make them racist.
They went with a slightly less used take from a pretty popular story -- that was the direction they wished to move in. And I can see them taking inspiration from plenty of other arcs as a way to further develop the character in the future.
Regardless, this is just a very weak way to try and stick it to somebody who happened to like the portrayal. You didn't, and that's your prerogative. All I did was try to inform someone that the filmmakers & writers weren't just pulling shit out of their asses when they were constructing their concept for Lex in BvS.
Anyways, I'm done talking to you. I'd rather not waste anymore time with angry little boys on the internet.
Doesn't matter, looks or characterization still falls under the same argument.
Sigh* so there was never a plan to make Joker look like the fucking Joker?
Green hair, red lips, white skin... sounds like the Joker to me!
Clooney had a cowl and cape but that shit was not Batman.
We barely even got much Joker in SS, though. I am going to wait and see if we get more of him going forward and further assess from that. But I felt there wasn't much off in his portrayal... he was an over-the-top killer clown. They got aspects of the Harley/Joker relationship off; but, as we've seen from some of the behind the scenes stuff, it appears as if the abusive parts were sadly cut out.
Regardless, we were talking purely aesthetics. And all I was pointing out was that the most prominent physical characteristics remained.
Bat Nipples > Damaged Tattoo
The tie should have stayed and the first pic is basically him reenacting Basic Instinct.
Lmao he looks like his in a boy band
I can only be so open minded before I give my full opinion, but so far nothing about this Joker I like. It would take a Ledger type of performance to change my mind, and there is not even hint of that from what I saw in SS. This trend continues, and Leto will easily be the worst Joker of all time.
I honestly liked the performance. I just wish a lot of his work didn't wind up on the cutting room floor and that the Mad Love elements were explored more. I personally came to warm up to the look, and I appreciate how they tried to take something already so recognizable and put a spin on it. When he was wearing the tux, I think he looked awesome!
I think that's one of the biggest problems with people: "put a spin on it." The Joker has had so many "spins" over the decades that there's just more to choose from for inspiration. I've said this before, and I'll say it over and over: writers are given license to manipulate these characters in ways that they deem fit for the story they're trying to tell - they're fans just like us. And what seems to go unnoticed by a lot of people is that everything that has been written about every comic book character after the original creators stopped writing their own characters is entirely FAN-FICTION. So all of this nonsense about "disrespecting characters" is just that, absolute nonsense. Leto's Joker is obviously a bit of a culture shock, so to speak. I totally understand why people don't like it. But it's just another version in a long line of versions branched off from Bill Finger's, Bob Kane's, and Jerry Robinson's original.
I'm in your boat. I was initially taken aback by this Joker because it was so different, but after watching him a number of times, he's become really enjoyable. To me, he has a nice mix of Nicholson's goofy, maniacal unpredictability and Ledger's chaotic, maniacal unpredictability. I particularly liked the scene where he gets into Griggs's face in the meat locker. I thought that was a good glimpse at his full potential.
Here's hoping we get some more out of him, because I think Leto deserves the opportunity to do more since they cut so much out of Suicide Squad.
@John Johnson:
BRAVO!!! *stands up and applauds you*
Best comment on this thread about The Joker's evolution in pop culture, Jared Leto's homage to what came before/modern take on the character and how some people have a hard time accepting change while acknowledging that what they deem "unacceptable", is embraced by others.
There are versions of these characters I don't like. But I acknowledge those versions have fans bases. And I would NEVER talk down to them and call them names because they're for something I'm against. I would never say, "You're not a true fan!" to them. Different strokes for different folks. It's all good.
Agreed. He gave a wonderful breakdown, and he backs up his statements rather well. These characters have been evolving for decades now, and they'll continue to have things stripped and added to their arsenals. The concept is really nothing new at this point, and part of the reason why I want to see more Leto is because there is still great potential to introduce something more to Joker's infamy.
@disqus_b6qRkkpGeV:disqus:
Well said! *high fives you*
It's more than just appearance to a character.
I'm well aware of that, hence why I initially spoke about performance lol. I felt he was serviceable in the tiny bit we got, but I also felt there was some missed opportunities. I don't place any of that on Leto; I put that on the executives that gave Ayer 6 weeks to write a script and proceeded to cut out a lot of Leto's performance.
I then brought up looks because you said there was "nothing about this Joker you like," so I'd assume that design choices fell flat for you too. And since this entire article is about concept art, it still felt very relevant to the subject.
Agreed!...my bad. You know the issue for me was that Leto's over the top look could only make sense if they showed the history of it. For example, the grills due to Batman punching his teeth out, etc. then yeah it would make sense. They kind of just threw this over the top look and mannerisms without a proper back story, which definitely did not help. Who knows maybe Affleck tackles this issue because well we can't have Batman without the Joker.
Hey, that's all very understandable, and I agree with that. A bit more exploration would've gone a long way in establishing his role in this universe. And I am trying to stay optimistic that he'll be better utilized going forward. I feel that both him AND the Joker character deserve as much!
Very true!!
You can still form a good opinion with the amount of screen time he got. Take 5 minutes of Heath's and you can already come to an conclusion that he is the best live action Joker.
Shit it only took three seconds of Heath Ledger saying the stranger line for me to love him.
I can agree with this. I certainly would never ever deny the truly special performance that Heath put in, and anyone who dons the makeup will forever be compared to what was achieved in TDK. I still think there's a lot of room for Leto to do great things, and I feel we got a couple brief glimpses of that, which is impressive all in and of itself considering the fact that he was only a secondary character.
Only time I liked Leto was when he was in the helicopter and shooting while laughing, everything else was cringeworthy as hell especially when he was purring and doing the cancer voice.
Your point is valid, though that's less a of a detriment to Leto's Joker and more of a compliment to Ledger's unforgettable performance.
I didn't like Suicide Squad much, but Leto's Joker was a highlight for me in every scene he was in.
Very true...I guess I'm being too nice with Leto.
I can't wait to see what's going to influence Ayer when it comes to Ivy and Catwoman. If it was instagram drug lords for Joker then prostitutes and crack addicts for Ivy and Catwoman?
Catwoman will have meow tattooed on her forehead.
And is that a bad thing because??....
Ugh not even surprise that you would defend it, the JL trailer can have "fuck you" all over it and you'll damage control the hell out of it.
Oh no no, i just want to hear YOU telling me why having the girls as street workers is a bad thing...
So? why is that a bad thing?.....
Didn't Ivy once had street girls as underlings in the comics?
No he didn't, Ayer was the one that looked at Instagram drug lords, Ayer was the one that suggested the tattoos, Ayer was the one that said no scars, only time Ayer listened to leto was with the eyebrows.
True about the instagram druglords - the tattoos etc.
This is how Leto's Joker should have looked, just take away those shitty tattoos and they would have completely nailed it.
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The look was horrendous but that was the least of his worries. Leto has terrible Joker instincts and some of his line deliveries are the worst I have seen in the recent superhero era. I cringe just thinking about the "this bird is baked" line.
Hunka hunka I cringed, I won't lie
But that's very much something I could see the Joker saying.
He was full of that lol.
The bad reaction to Affleck was prior to the movie coming out. The troubling thing with Leto is people have gotten even more hostile after the movie came out. Affleck silenced his haters. Leto multiples his.
Bingo.
Saying Jared's haters are the minority is horribly inaccurate lol.
LOL they think because they get upvotes here on this website, they are the majority. Post these comments on other websites, hell even on Youtube and you'll get shredded.
With all do respect that is pure bullshit.
I would never say it was universally hated. There are tens of people I am sure that enjoy his performance.
The reaction to Jared's Joker has been negative you can try and spin whatever made up account of the common people you want but Jared Leto will still be considered a massive disappointment.
His 10 minutes showed us more than enough, you don't need 2 hours to come to a conclusion.
Oh please, Leto doesn't even watch his own movies so he sees nothing wrong with his performances.
This is true. I was in love with this Joker before the movie. After the movie I was super disappointed but blamed the studios for cutting his scenes and the bad script. After watching a few times now, from what we've seen is a pretty poor performance, very over acted. That said I still believe he could turn in a great performance with the right direction.
Have to do a complete 180
this is my ideal joker, played by david schwimmer https://uploads.disquscdn.c...
Are you me?
I'd place more of the fallbacks on some weak dialogue and a small body of work. For the tiny bit he was given, I think he did fine. He was eccentric, ostentatious, and violent.
Murderer Batman!
Sure..haters silenced....
I had big hopes for Jared Leto as the Joker, and was undaunted by the hot topic look. I was waiting for a different take anyway. However, Leto's actual acting performance was cringeworthy in like every scene. When he's saying "Hunka Hunka" or whatever in the one seen he really does sound like a bad Jim Carey The Mask character. His whole performance felt forced and off-putting, like he was trying too hard. Even in the car with Harley she is the focus because he just doesn't have the presence.
After many many, many conversations with the actor, who happens to confirm what my masked friend pointed out. What do you think?, that this recently academy award wining actor was going to sit tight and wait for Ayer to lay all the ground rules? you’re so innocent...
You think because they win an award that automatically just gives them power over the director? LOL
You’re so black and white...like a child, no grey areas...
Negotiations, contracts, long term studio deals..., Jared had more role offers after his oscar win than all of the other runners for the part, this gives an actor a " priority clause" when a new deal is closed, in which they can execute certain final decisions on the product (or character for you), it literally gives him 'power'...
"like a child"
BAHAHA coming from you, that is rich. Ayer or Warner didn't need Leto, there are so many alternatives that would have made a better Joker and they know that. Playing Joker is also a PRIVILEGE so Leto was in no position to make any type of demands even with that precious award. Also Ayer was set as director way before Leto even got cast so his ideas came first and it's his ideas that got executed.
"there are so many alternatives that would have made a better Joker and they know that"...
Wow!..we have a WB insider here!!!
So tell me....who else you guys had in line that was better?.....please don’t say Mark Hammill......
David Schwimmer
Willem Dafoe
lol you're fucking dumb kid
Edgy.
Oh my god... i didn’t named him because i thought it was the most imbecile answer ever and you will never say that.....
and who's your amazing choice? Michael Cera?
I don’t choose the actors..., im an audience member, I choose to go see a movie or not, don’t you understand that?.
I choose to comment on a comic book movie site about the things that i like, unlike you...that chooses to waste his life time on movies that he didn’t like, trying to convince others to not like them as well....
I really hope you see the hypocrisy in your statements.
LOL he tries to play the innocent card, so cute.
Dont bring your second account to have sidekicks..its so lame
Yeah okay buddy, here's an upvote so you can feel better.
I'll second it.
Thanks, i do feel better
Bubble much?
I'd say the prostitute route is a possibility with Selina -- especially if he uses Year One as influence.
The Joker was very two dimensional to me, hopefully Leto gets a chance to do more with the character in a future film with better scriptwriting (The Batman).
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In the words of Mr. John Johnson:
"The Joker has had so many "spins" over the decades that there's just more to choose from for inspiration, writers are given license to manipulate these characters in ways that they deem fit for the story they're trying to tell - they're fans just like us. And what seems to go unnoticed by a lot of people is that everything that has been written about every comic book character after the original creators stopped writing their own characters is entirely FAN-FICTION. So all of this nonsense about "disrespecting characters" is just that, absolute nonsense. Leto's Joker is obviously a bit of a culture shock, so to speak. I totally understand why people don't like it. But it's just another version in a long line of versions branched off from Bill Finger's, Bob Kane's, and Jerry Robinson's original".
I'll be honest: I actually don't think Jared Leto's performance was that bad. Was it "good?" I wouldn't quite go that far, but I thought his performance itself was okay. For me, it was the design (I fail to see the point of all of those tattoos if he's going to be shirtless for one scene), direction (why was he purring in that scene with Griggs?) and the writing (mostly forgettable, and some really bad dialogue from him) that ruined it. Don't get me started on his minimal role in the story. I'm not talking about his twelve minutes of screen time, I'm referring to him being a complete "side character" and having nothing to do with the mission. So I do think he's one of the worst portrayals of Joker outside of TDKReturns Part 2 and Young Justice (I'm sorry, I STILL think those are worse versions of him!)
As for Margot Robbie and Will Smith, I actually would have loved their characters wholeheartedly had they (in Harley's case especially) not say any bad jokes or (in Deadshot's case) have the actors practically play themselves most of the time. As is, they were still arguably the best parts of the movie, outside of Viola Davis as Amanda Waller (THE best part of the movie in my opinion).
Again: more time spent on looks rather than the story.
For all of you who whined (and still whine) about the Joker, at least you can say they didn't go with "Magic Mike" Joker.
That Deadshot sketch is accurate AF!
..................... and yet the story was garbage the joker was stupid ...
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