No Doomsday in 'Batman v Superman' according to 3D artist who worked on it (update)

There's been rumor after rumor that say Doomsday will be a villain in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, but that's not happening according to a guy who worked on the movie.

Sean Ray works at Moving Picture Company, one of the visual effects shops that are working on Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. MPC just wrapped their portion of Zack Snyder's upcoming movie, and Ray took to Instagram to celebrate.

"Batman v Superman is wrapped, one the best films i have worked on! My inner child is happy! I'm the biggest superman fan ever! So it was a dream to work on it! Looking forward to seeing it on the big screen in March! I can't wait !! Good job everyone who worked on it," he wrote.

Update 10/18/15: Ray has deleted his Instagram post, and his entire account from what I can see.

In the comments section, Ray explained that he's a 3D character/Creature Artist at MPC, and that's when someone said "Nice! So did you create the model for Doomsday??". Then to everyone's surprise, Ray replied!

"Hahaha lol unfortunately he's not in the film, maybe in the man of steel squel or justice league film who knows", he said.

Unfortunately for Ray, his comments here may prevent him from working on Doomsday in Justice League or Man of Steel 2. Usually anyone who does post-production work on a giant blockbuster like Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice has to sign a contract that forbids them from saying anything about the movie.

166 comments

Jaguar

October 17, 2015

It could be misdirection. Maybe that just wasn't his area of work? Maybe he was paid to say it? or maybe he just lost his job...
We'll find out.

Jaguar
October 17, 2015
CRAP. I broke the rules. First post and I didn't said "First".
Princess Diana
October 17, 2015
In this case I hope not
ernest schoenmakers
October 19, 2015
Maybe Shannon is Bizarro instead of Doomsday.
1. ernest schoenmakers
  October 19, 2015
  Yeah maybe.
David
November 4, 2015
I know the guy, he was fired for the incident.

BatmanNewsChris

October 17, 2015

He can't say "yes" or "no"! The fact that he even replied means he's not the sharpest tool in the shed. So it wouldn't surprise me if he's telling the truth.

Princess Diana
October 17, 2015
Lol
1. thevigilante
  October 17, 2015
  Use your Lasso! Don't just sit and laugh.
  1. Princess Diana
    October 17, 2015
    haha, I've been using my lasso
HEAVEN_OR_HECK
October 17, 2015
Yeah, the shortlist was short enough that either answer was inappropriately telling. I hate knowing this.
Alex Hajna
October 18, 2015
Right, but if he just said "I can't say", then the answer would obviously be yes. It's like when Mindy Kaling was asked if Steve Carell would be in the finale of The Office. She literally said "I can't tell you either way," and then the world knew he was going to be in it. It's best to just lie and say no.
We heard this story before. John Harrison is NOT Kahn. Miranda Tate is NOT Talia al Ghul. I'm not saying Doomsday will be in BvS, but there's no reason to believe what this guy says.

kiddCharlemagne

October 17, 2015

So El Maybe is wrong again ?

OmegaCorleone
October 17, 2015
What a surprise!
Pendragon
October 18, 2015
Eh Maybe.

Kevin from Sacramento

October 17, 2015

Didn't they do the same thing with Talia in TDKR? They denied it from the first casting, and maintained she was an original character.

BatmanNewsChris
October 17, 2015
Yeah but that was a little different. It's part of the actors job to talk about the movie and promote it. The behind-the-scenes guys sign contracts that say they can't say a word! So this guy made a big mistake, whether he's telling the truth or not.

Princess Diana

October 17, 2015

Good. It isn't time for Doomsday anyway, save him for way later

Princess Diana
October 17, 2015
Hey!, glad you could stop in, how are you doing? :) I know it's been discussed, but who do you think will be a secondary villain outside of Luthor?
1. Patrick Nordsvahn
  October 17, 2015
  Metallo
  1. Princess Diana
    October 17, 2015
    I like the idea of Metallo or even Bizzaro, I want to seem a villain we haven't had on the big screen yet, Luthor I get, makes complete sense, but now is the time for others
    1. DanielBryanson
      October 17, 2015
      Maybe an army of Amazos? You know, the trinity fighting them in the city then suddenly Batman gets punched around by a superspeeding amazo. That'd be a pretty cool way to imply that there are also others fighting with them.
    2. Princess Diana
      October 17, 2015
      I didn't think of the possibility, but that would be another great option, I just want them to go outside of the common villain issues a little, switch it up and Amazos could do it, I think audiences and CB fans would be surprised
    3. HEAVEN_OR_HECK
      October 18, 2015
      Please, no army of robots again anytime soon. Marvel killed Iron Man 2 with that crap, and Ultron suffered from it as well. They're CGI straw men. Nothing more.
      Plus, AMAZO is better than that battle fodder spam treatment.
    4. BROWN_KNIGHT 4 Trump
      October 18, 2015
      Agreed!!! Amazo would be a threat to unite them...he probaly makes his appearance at the court house scene....
    5. MBII
      October 20, 2015
      Well you might be disappointed if the villains are OMACs, which I think is a strong possibility. However, this army of robots will have a proper villain backing them up in Lex Luthor.
    6. HEAVEN_OR_HECK
      October 20, 2015
      OMACS I can live with. There are ways to make them dynamic and individually formidable like DOFP's Future Sentinels. It's mechanical straw men (ex: Brainiac asserting his will via thousands of disposable bipedal drones) that I'm wary of, and I think Snyder/DC is also aloof after two Avengers movies with third act fodder.
      Fun fact, we were going to get an army of robots at the end of Justice League Mortal.
    7. MBII
      October 21, 2015
      Interesting...
    8. Patrick Nordsvahn
      October 17, 2015
      Bizarro could be cool, but he is a little too weird for this universe. Maby if they made him into some kind of kreepy clone of Zod. We know Lex has Zods body and is studying the kryptonian genetic code. But I think that a Lex actually fighting Superman himself like an evil Iron Man is really something new we havent seen. Maby with an army of drones, Metallos. Give us the Lex we deserve. I have so much faith in Jesse Eisenberg!
    9. Princess Diana
      October 17, 2015
      I agree, Bizarro they would have to make him creepy, as far as Lex I like the idea of him in the suit, but I think it will show up a little later, let his hatred and obsession build some more. Eisenberg is going to give us the Lex we've been wanting he will own this role
    10. Patrick Nordsvahn
      October 17, 2015
      I totally agree! I think that Jesse could steal the show. He could do to Lex Luthor what Heath Ledger did to The Joker. He is an awesome actor. The NYCC really proved that Lex will play a huge role in this movie.
    11. MBII
      October 20, 2015
      > Bizarro could be cool, but he is a little too weird for this universe
      ....No he's not
    12. Patrick Nordsvahn
      October 20, 2015
      With that I mean the whole thing with the Bizarroworld where up is down and no means yes. That Bizarro is cute.
  2. Patrick Nordsvahn
    October 17, 2015
    Yeah, but Lex has kryptonite. With alot of drones atleast it would be a good fight. Lex has satellites in space too for sonic blasts. Rumours say that Lex and Amanda Waller has caught metahumans before. Wonder Woman is in Metropolis to liberate her cousin, Aquaman, from captivity. Only rumours but it would be a good way to introduce him. Nevertheless, I think the focus is on the Superman/Batman brawl, but there is sertainly more action for us to see. Maby a possible villain could be Hank Henshaw, the Cyborg Superman! I love him! But Darkseid, Doomsday and Brainiac will be spared for later...
  3. HEAVEN_OR_HECK
    October 18, 2015
    They absolutely need to include Metallo as a secondary villain at some point.
2. Princess Diana
  October 18, 2015
  No problem, glad you enjoyed it, still want to see it, and the bridge of spies. I went with younger sister and cousin to go see goosebumps and for nostalgia sake (Saturday morning cartoons, remember??), it was cute and I enjoyed it.
  1. Princess Diana
    October 18, 2015
    4 times, stayed in Manhattan, Bronx, Harlem. Planning on going to up state in another year have some friends of the family up there. Why do you ask?
3. MBII
  October 20, 2015
  OMACs
  1. Princess Diana
    October 20, 2015
    looks like it's going to happen, can't wait to see it unfold
Patrick Nordsvahn
October 17, 2015
This picture is very speaking to what I want! 👌
1. Princess Diana
  October 17, 2015
  you know a lot of people don't want that to happen, but I say why not? I believe in this DCEU it will happen, Lex will see no other choice just like in the comics but to do the job himself
  1. Patrick Nordsvahn
    October 17, 2015
    Agreed. In Lex's world he is the only one worthy!
2. Patrick Nordsvahn
  October 17, 2015
  I guess they would make the suit more realistic and metallic. Maby a modified version of the one that Zod left on that rooftop in MoS? That one with kryptonite and some big guns on the shoulders would be really cool and durable since it's kryptonian
3. MBII
  October 20, 2015
  I don't like the color scheme. I prefer the black and blue of his alternate costume in Injustice.
Gente fina
October 18, 2015
How about project omac
1. Princess Diana
  October 18, 2015
  even that would be good, something fresh and new
2. MBII
  October 20, 2015
  That's my top theory right now
  1. Gente fina
    October 20, 2015
    The only thing that still annoys me is the flippers thing on michael shannon
    1. MBII
      October 21, 2015
      Yeah I'm wondering how Zod plays into all of this. Maybe we'll see Bizarro AND OMACs?
      EDIT: Bizarro, not Brainiac
MBII
October 20, 2015
Somebody with some sense! The Justice League needs to be established so that Doomsday can thrash half of them.
1. Princess Diana
  October 20, 2015
  exactly, the stories need to have proper build up, then unleash the monster

Batman

October 17, 2015

You're a dick for posting this and jeapordizing his job, let alone to point that out and say he's not "the sharpest tool in the shed" - you've no idea what the vfx industry is like. It's posted to an account thats personal, and he has no intent for people to rip things from it and publish it as news. Consider and respect your sources bro. I'm a fan of your site and I work in the film industry but your behaviour here is not cool.

eighthsin7
October 17, 2015
If its on social media...its public. You can't blame Chris or any news site for that matter for reporting on a slip up that this guy himself made. He jeopardized his own job so calling Chris a dick is bull.
BatmanNewsChris
October 17, 2015
No, I'm not. He posted it *publicly*!!!
1. Mark
  October 17, 2015
  And at least 3 or 4 larger sites ran it already today.
Alex Vidal
October 17, 2015
If you don't want something to be posted all over the internet then you shouldn't have posted it PUBLICLY online. It's common sense.
Batman
October 18, 2015
If he was smart he wouldn't have made an account with his real name. Plus if you actually work in the industry, you should already know that websites dig for any little info everyday on big films.
MBII
October 20, 2015
Lolwut?

Alex Vidal

October 17, 2015

They take care of CGI. CGI doesn't have to be completely finished in order for the MPAA to know what rating the movie is going to have. Besides, it's not like none of the CGI was done. They most likely did some finishing touches on the movie. Oh and Blonde*

Alex Vidal

October 17, 2015

So Doomsday, Metallo, Bizarro, Chris (Batman-news), Braniac, Darkseid, Sinestro, Black Adam, Scooby Doo and Bugs Bunny is pretty much confirmed then?

Alex Vidal
October 17, 2015
Hahaha, "EEH.. what's up, doc?"
Alex Vidal
October 18, 2015
I was joking. And how many acres?
1. Alex Vidal
  October 19, 2015
  Sure thing, what's your email? Because it's over sea I will require you to send me your social security number or credit card Number if you are not from the states! Thanks in advance!
  1. Alex Vidal
    October 20, 2015
    I only accept batarangs and Lantern rings.
    1. Alex Vidal
      October 21, 2015
      Fine, I'll settle for pig wings.
    2. Alex Vidal
      October 22, 2015
      Hahahaha this one made me laugh a lot! You win this round, buddy.

ᴰᴱcᴀsτʀᴏ

October 17, 2015

HA KNEW IT!

Pendragon

October 17, 2015

Don't know if this is off-topic but have you seen his website? He is a 3d character artist and he has a model for Darkseid! http://www.sean-ray.co.uk/ actually it really looks legit plus you can see MOS Superman against Darkseid. If this is true and he works with WB I hope he doesn't get in trouble cause they should of denounced Doomsday (If he isn't in the film) long time ago. What if he was allowed to say something?

BatmanNewsChris
October 17, 2015
That's not off-topic! According to his website he made Darkseid for a talk he gave at a VFX conference. He said on Instagram that's he's always been a huge Superman fan so I think that's where Darkseid came from. I don't think it's from a movie or anything.
IamTheOneWhoKnocks
October 17, 2015
Those beams in the trailer could have been Darkseid omega beams.
1. Patrick Nordsvahn
  October 17, 2015
  Noo! Darkseid, Doomsday and Brainiac is saved for later. There is enough going on in this movie. The beam is either from Lex krypto suit, wich is basiclly like Iron Mans, or from Metallo. We need a scary badass Lex in this universe. Not the goody granpa-version from the old movies.
  1. IamTheOneWhoKnocks
    October 20, 2015
    I don't know too much about Metallo....I will have to look him up and learn more..
2. IamTheOneWhoKnocks
  October 20, 2015
  I kind of agree with that, but if not Darkseid....who could it be with those beams?
  1. IamTheOneWhoKnocks
    October 21, 2015
    Yeah, I read about that...sounds reasonable and it would be a great tie in with Suicide Squad.
12stepCornelius
October 17, 2015
Ho-lee-fuck
http://payload411.cargocoll...
It's the 3D artist's vision of Darkseid, yes, but damn good adaption from the animated series one.
Bats2012
October 17, 2015
If he created this just for fun why would he use the very specific MOS superman suit???
HEAVEN_OR_HECK
October 18, 2015
No Planet For Old Gods.

OmegaCorleone

October 17, 2015

http://36.media.tumblr.com/...

Bats2012
October 17, 2015
It is?
1. Bats2012
  October 18, 2015
  *Disengage sarcasm mode*
Mark
October 18, 2015
Is that legit????
1. OmegaCorleone
  October 18, 2015
  I haven't seen any official Lego sets of this tho lol, but it does look pretty damn cool
  1. Mark
    October 18, 2015
    It turns out to be a LEGO hacker... h ttps://www.flickr.com/photo... . But here's one that's apparently legit:
    http://www.brickheroes.com/...

Patrick Nordsvahn

October 17, 2015

Who is surprised? It is way too early to introduce Doomsday. It will be Metallo and/or Lex Luthor in his krypto suit. Cyborg will be introduced as a LexCorps creation who turns good. Come on guys! The Doomsday-story needs it's own movie. To introduce Doomsday in Batman v Superman would be like introducing Thanos in Iron Man 2...

Patrick Nordsvahn
October 17, 2015
Agree! I really hope it is Lex Luthor in his krypto suit. We need a scary, badass Lex this time around. Not the goofy old man from the old movies. Lex along with Metallo would be threat enough in this movie.
Patrick Nordsvahn
October 18, 2015
Yeah, but he is still a too important villain to introduce this early, especially with everything else going on. That was my point. He is one of the most lethal villains in the DC Universe. "Death of Superman" will come later. Batman v Superman will not have any big name villain in it, except Lex Luthor or/and maby Metallo/Bizarro or some weird clone of Zod...
1. Patrick Nordsvahn
  October 19, 2015
  I know that Doomsday is not fking Thanos, but he is still the monster everybody is waiting for so they are not gonna waste him this early on in a movie with enough stuff in it as it is! It makes no sense. Second, how do you know wich storylines Zack has in mind for JL1, JL2 and MoS2? Dont say you know when you only speculate like all of us. You are not a DC-savant. Knowitalls make me wanna go Doomsday! 😉

The Question

October 17, 2015

I think nobody cares if Doomsday is in the film, Lex is enough, with a good script of course

Patrick Nordsvahn
October 17, 2015
My thought exactly. Give us the Lex we deserve. A scary badass genious. I know that Jesse can pull it off. I want the krypto suit that makes him able to go toe to toe with Superman. Maby in this universe he modifies the suit Zod took off in Man of Steel? Metallo is also a villain who would fit in this movie.
1. Atilla The Hun
  October 18, 2015
  So you want two mortals in their respective mech suits? Wow, that is not redundant at all!
  1. Patrick Nordsvahn
    October 18, 2015
    Not too far fetched IMO. Batmans suit is only temporary. Lex's suit is his trademark along with his bald head. Cyborg Superman is a possibility also.
    1. Atilla The Hun
      October 18, 2015
      Neither Lex's purple-green suit nor cyborg superman would translate well into the live action screen. It's not going to happen. I bet you all my money.
    2. Patrick Nordsvahn
      October 18, 2015
      You'te on! But it wont be purple and green. But a metallic high tech armor is not too far fetched. I remember I read for like a year ago that Zack wanted Lex to be able to brawl with Superman sometime. I personally don't think that will be possible in a t-shirt. As for Cyborg Superman, they just need to write him a new orgin that translates well into this universe. Doesn't have to be Hank Henshaw.
2. BROWN_KNIGHT 4 Trump
  October 18, 2015
  I thought metallo would be too but zack stated months ago, metallo is not in it...
  1. Patrick Nordsvahn
    October 18, 2015
    Well, that could be to mislead us. I think that we would have seen some major actor be announced at this point, that could play the villain. So if Lex is not the villain a completely CGI enemy makes more sense. I really don't want a Zod zombie. Maby Lex creates Hank Henshaw from the blood they harvested from Superman in MoS, so that Henry Cavill plays him aswell. That would be a new orgin to Cyborg Superman, but a pretty cool one! I would even be fine with a Cyborg Superman created from Zods remains, because Hank Henshaw is one of my favourite villains! 😜
    1. BROWN_KNIGHT 4 Trump
      October 18, 2015
      That could also explain how he has supes kneeling down...interesting too...in the trailer towards the end...hes shown saying day vs.night...
      Still trying to figure out who they mean when they say "they brought their warrior"....
Mark
October 18, 2015
I've been saying all along that I think Doomsday is a lame villain. He's just a big ball of kill with no real motivation, nothing to build a story around. He was an ugly plot device so they could give us the cover of Superman #75 and "Reign of the Supermen".

Rob_wesb

October 17, 2015

Of course he can be trying to lead us off, but this is a much more reliable source than El Mayimbe as of now.

Daniel Christopher Holt

October 17, 2015

If they don't get into Death and Return of Superman by Justice League parts 1 and 2, they can create Crisis on Infinite Earths (not a carbon copy) to play in 2020 and 2021 (or 2020, 2021, and 2022), followed by the Death and Return of Superman story arc, Emerald Twilight, and Final Night that gets into the 8 other power sources of the Green Lantern Corps. I thought a great way to get the lineup started is for Justice League Parts 1 and 2 to be a mixture of The Death of Superman, World Without a Superman, The Sword of Superman, and Reign of the Supermen for the Death and Return of Superman story arc. This time they can use a lot more Justice League instead of it just being a Superman story but it still has all of the elements of that story. Because DC Warner Brothers movies are just getting started it could have a $500 million production budget. When they directly compete with Avengers Infinity War parts 1 and 2, they could release a two parter as Crisis on Infinite Earths in 2020 and 2021 with a combined production and a $1 billion production budget. Avengers Infinity War parts 1 and 2 has a $1 billion production budget. This way they can wow audiences with their first set of Justice League movies with a $500 million production budget, and then move up from there with a $1 billion production budget on Crisis on Infinite Earths. If it goes in the reverse order then if Crisis on Infinite Earths is released in 2017 and 2019 it would have the $1 billion production budget (As Justice League parts 1 and 2). But that doesn't give enough time to introduce the characters when that's supposed to move into the whole movie Universe right away showing everyone. In the comics for the best of canon in DC of the 1980s to 1990s that goes some into after 2000 it began with Crisis on Infinite Earths. If 2013 to 2017 is phase 1, 2018 to 2020 can be phase 2, and then after 2020 is phase 3. The Reign of the Supermen opens up the Green Lantern Corps canon right away into Emerald Twilight and Final Night, that then gets into the 8 other power sources for 9 power sources in all, one group collective a power source. All 9 power sources can be used at once by any individual for an interesting effect like in Godhead. I think there could be another power source that's unrevealed that could be a grey power source, and that would make it 10 power sources in all that would have 10 group collectives in all, one group collective for each power source. If a person used all 10 power sources at once that would have an interesting effect. Those 10 power sources would be white, grey, black as the atom charge sources, and then red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet. All 10 give power like different types of energy storage. For Batman they can do a prequel for year 2000 of Vengeance of Bane parts 1 and 2, The Question, Jean-Paul Valley Azrael issues 1-100, and Knightfall trilogy (Knightfall, Knightquest, KnightsEnd). Crisis on Infinite Earths can introduce the far future teams, alternate realities, 1940s All-Star Squadron, Justice Society of America in their prime in the 1960s with Infinity Inc., The Crime Syndicate, and a lot of others. That can lead to an All-Star Squadron movie, and a 1960s Justice Society of America movie. Justice Society of America will have been around since atleast World War 1 or World War II, who were also the elite team of All-Star Squadron. All-Star Squadron recruited all of the American superhero teams for World War II, and All-Star Squadron was recruited by President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. At the end of Crisis on Infinite Earths in 2021, Superboy Prime breaks out of a dimension he's trapped in by punching reality that causes several supernatural events to take place as a ripple in the fabric of reality, and Jason Todd is reanimated and brought back to life from the grave. Jason Todd can go on his own for a few years learning to be a master criminal, also visiting League of Assassins and getting attached to crime politics in Gotham City becoming a vigilante who steals money from other mafias and keeps that money for himself. He also gets brain damage developing a drug addiction and taking lots of hits to the head, because he goes into the lifestyle he blocked himself out of when joining with Bruce Wayne as a young child. Before he joined with Batman as a child he was bound to be stuck in prison for the rest of his life, he would have become a killer and a top mafia specialist, and he would have abused alcohol and illegal street drugs. He was abused and abandoned as a child by abusive drug addict evil intelligent criminals who adopted him from his good willed but crime ridden intelligent blood parents. He was homeless in the crime culture of Gotham City for a couple years as a child after being abandoned. He could make his appearances in 2024 or so, if he died at 19 years old, is brought back to life in 2021, then in 2024 he would be 22 years old. He's still sort of lost after his conflict with Batman, but can be the hero at times after that joining a team with heroes. 2023 can also begin a new Justice Society of America being created who Magog is apart of, and that gets into Thy Kingdom Come with Gog, The Kingdom, The Dark Knight Returns, The Dark Knight Strikes Again with the enemies as Lex Luthor, Brainiac trio, and Superman, and 10 years after Thy Kingdom Come, Kingdom Come would take place in 2033. Magog takes on that identity when given powers by Gog. Magog is a great great great grandson of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. The 2020s Justice Society of America is meant to represent the rebirth of the American dream, and Magog represents the sense of losing beliefs with lost dreams in the modern times to where with how complicated things are now he can't match the legacy of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and so Magog chooses radicalism to bring law into his own hands to create his own radical law, he switches between hero and radical with a lot of heroism, but then shifts more to radicalism. He joins in beheading Gog to show he still has his heroic side, but then ends up choosing the same path as Gog in Magog's radicalism. Gog specializes with elite members, and Magog is better with masses where elite members are on more equal terms with Magog but Magog has such a strong personality and self belief though radical he takes a precedence and is the dominant figure. Magog is a mortal with enhanced powers, enhanced artifacts, and enhanced cyborg technology. Gog has a powerful artifact a staff (that Magog is given and it gets enhancements from Maxwell Lord IV after reviewing Magog's future.), enhanced cyborg technology, and other types of technology while he's a mixture of a human and an Old God of the once Ugrund who was given powers by each of the members of the Quintessence, who afterwards through his actions they see him as a rogue against their own ways. The original Justice Society of America began in either World War I or World War II, they were in their height in the 1960s, but they were disbanded by the end of the Cold War in 1991. Batman Beyond with Terry McGinnis can begin in 2034, a year after Kingdom Come, and Terry McGinnis ends up joining the future Justice League with Superman, and then his plot goes to 2051 when he talks to Amander Waller and finds out he was gene altered with Bruce Wayne's DNA before he was born, so was his brother, without Bruce Wayne knowing, without Terry McGinnis's parents knowing, to where Terry McGinnis doesn't share the same biological DNA his own father was born with. Jason Todd could appear in a prequel "Batman: A Death in the Family" written by Jim Starlin, sooner when Jason Todd is 19 years old or so. After 2021, when Justice League is temporarily broken, the corrupt Maxwell Lord IV possessed by a computer program that took over Metron's machine creates Justice League International that recruits Booster Gold and Blue Beetle as apart of it to name a couple. Superman/Doomsday Hunter/Prey can be developed into that brings Darkseid and Apokolips into the story. Brainiac goes through time to retrieve Doomsday after that, and Brainiac trio (Vril Dox, Brainiac, and the ship computer consciousness who's the most intelligent but is most like a computer compared to Brainiac. Vril Dox is the leader of the three but he can't be rebuilt, so mostly Brainiac makes an appearance while Vril Dox goes by Brainiac 2 because he's more advanced turning his organic matter into computer processing with cyborg enhancements, while Brainiac is pure robot and so is the ship.) with Lex Luthor they get Doomsday's DNA while fragmenting his body into four parts with interdimensional portals to keep him subdued. They tweak Doomsday's DNA and make him a lot more intelligent, and then they put him through an Infinite tube with time displacement where a million years goes by in an instant to evolve him into Doomslayer with Cyborg enhancements and his fortress. They create the template to be able to clone an army of Doomsdays but their DNA is modified to have more development of the pre-frontal lobe that makes them feel a lot more physical pain upon impact, and they have a stronger bond to emotions while they also are genetically programmed to obey Vril Dox, Brainiac, and Lex Luthor. They can sell a weakened version of this clone army to Darkseid, and they also pit the more powerful version of this cloned army against Imperiex-Prime when he tries to destroy the Universe. Right after that event, Doomslayer tries to blow up Earth because he doesn't like that such stupid destructive primitive creations were made based on his DNA that's an insult to his existence. Darkseid seeks the Anti-Life Equation, and a conflict between Earth, Apokolips, and New Genesis happens. Lex Luthor can become president of the United States in 2021. He can create Legion of Doom with the Brainiac trio. Two of Lex Luthor's henchmen are Bizarro and Metallo. Lex Luthor has a super suit to be called Super Lex Luthor, and Vril Dox also has a super suit he ends up using. Brainiac-5 and Brainiac-13 are each in a different future time period. Around 2025 another event can break out that's Infinite Crisis and Final Crisis. Forever Evil, and Forever Evil: Arkham War can also take place somewhere in there. Batman can get into a set of prequels that goes back to when his parents died when he was 13 years old, and his years of traveling around the world while running Wayne Enterprises at a young age as a child prodigy, a genius with an eidetic memory and an IQ of 190, a multi-billionaire businessman with a multi-billion dollar a year business as Wayne Enterprises, a scientist, and an inventor as the next Andrew Carnegie, Thomas Edison, and Nikola Tesla. For 12 years he travels around the world to learn a lot of things also learning from Giovanni "John" Zatara (Zatanna Zatara wouldn't be born yet if she's in her 20s in 2018 apart of Justice League Dark), and the direct instruction of Ra's Al Ghul in training with League of Assassins. Bruce Wayne pays Ra's Al Ghul a lot of money, but doesn't kill. Killing is apart of learning for all other members of League of Assassins. Bruce Wayne was a passion project for Ra's, and he wanted Bruce Wayne to find his own path. Zero Year can begin after Bruce Wayne is 25 years old where he does vigilante work in Gotham City without his Batman suit, and then 6 months later into 25 years old he begins the Batman identity at Year One with a team up with James Gordon, then comes Year Two and Year Three with the extreme criminals that develop because Batman with James Gordon exposes the mafia investors and the original Court of Owls who had been ruling the investors, mafias, and politics of Gotham City for decades also having huge roles in the Black Budget, Pentagon, NASA, CIA, etc. One Batman movie or Batman related such as temporary spinoffs can be released a year with multiple combined production Batman movies such as Zero Year, Year One, Year Two, Year Three, All-Star Batman, etc. Laughing Fish, The Killing Joke, Superman/Batman: Public Enemies by Jeph Loeb, Flashpoint, Godhead, Superman: At Earth's End, Superman: The Dark Side (it can be a match for Superman that Darkseid recruits and teaches but not Superman himself), Tower of Babel, Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman: Trinity, Batman Year 100, All-Star Superman, Sword of Superman, DC One Million, DC: A New Frontier, I'll think of everything right here to mention. L.E.G.I.O.N., Omega Men, R.E.B.E.L.S. with Lobo, Guardians of the Universe with Oa, the 9 Lantern Corps of the 9 power sources, Young Justice (such as Teen Titans and Titans), N.E.M.O. ran by the immortals The Controllers with Darkstars and L.E.G.I.O.N. can appear as side references when the Green Lantern Corps is temporarily out of commission and doing massive rebuilding and renovating after Central Power Battery absorbed Parallax Hal Jordan kills thousands of members and destroys the entire Green Lantern building structures. The Green Lantern Corps of 7200 members were still too weak for the challenges to come before Hal Jordan's attack, and in Oan prophecy had changes not have been made there would be a rogue sect of Green Lanterns that would subdue the Guardians of the Universe and consume them alive in cannibalism to run Oa but with great imbalance, chaos, destruction, and a downward spiral. Green Lantern Corps began as 3600 members with just 1 Green Lantern a Sector, Sector 2814 had Alan Scott. Then it increases to 7200 members of 2 Green Lanterns a Sector, Sector 2814 had an old Alan Scott and a very young Hal Jordan. Then it became Hal Jordan and Guy Gardner when Alan Scott retired. Then Green Lantern Corps accepted extras with two primary members for each Sector, with Hal Jordan and Guy Gardner as the two primary members, and then in 2000 a very young John Stewart was added to the team on reserve. When Green Lantern Corps went into rebuilding the two primary members were Guy Gardner and John Stewart, with Kyle Rayner recruited who focused more on rebuilding the Green Lantern Corps and work on Oa with Guardians of the Universe. During that time Kyle Rayner did energy intensive work with a much bigger power battery, and was infused with the power of Ion. He concentrated a lot more on building, teaching, and personal work at Green Lantern Corps, on Oa, and with Guardians of the Universe as opposed to combat but he did some intensive combat too. Guy Gardner was focused on a mixture of Earth and around the rest of Sector 2814, and John Stewart the same but also did a lot with Justice League that was very extensive. I name the order of characters in seniority, but they work as equals in a team who split up responsibilities. Then Hal Jordan joined again, and Simon Baz and Jade entered who Jade can be a great great grand daughter to Alan Scott. Alan Scott can rejoin as a teacher when Green Lantern Corps is rebuilt, and he can be around 100 years old by that time. By that time members of Sector 2814 are Alan Scott, Guy Gardner, John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, Simon Baz, Jade, and Hal Jordan, but the two primaries are Guy Gardner and John Stewart. Legion of Super-Heroes and Legion of Super-Villains exist in the 30th, 31st, and 32nd centuries. Supergirl can have relationships at different times with Lex Luthor, Darkseid, and Lobo. In each case there's a lot of self growth from both sides, and Darkseid begins more learning in a lot of ways where he's picking up on wisdom when he challenges Earth's forces. He could take Supergirl by force with brainwashing, but a lot of that is also Supergirl's personal choice. In each case she's only with them for however many years and then just keeps contact from time to time where it's just a new learning experience but she might ultimately get with a completely different personality type than them. This version of Lobo looks at his more intelligent aspects while he's also very emotionally stunted with the trauma from when he grew up. He's also very dangerous but more in an intelligent way, and takes on many jobs that require a lot more intellect like how he was originally written and with the 1990s retcon. In the retcon too he had over 1000 languages memorized. He's a sadistic brute and a scholar. He stole sub-space drive equipment from a scientist on one of his jobs and attached it to his space hog, and he can travel through time and through space with it. He can break down the sub-space parts and figure it all out bit by bit. He built his own space hog. He takes on very intelligent jobs with top pay. He wiped out a reckless race when he was paid to with a genocidal pathogen he created. He likes to get into trouble such as with super powered intergalactic groups, because he likes to solve intelligent puzzles and give himself different challenges. Even if a group of Green Lanterns pass him by they would fear him if they had to go after him. He's shown his good side such as with the waitress at an outerspace diner. He's had to kill off his ex-wife and his children, of the same race as him, because they were too destructive and lacked values that he has. He follows a lot of intergalactic etiquette but breaks a lot of rules. For him it's for the challenge. His ex-wife and his children would avoid challenges, which is why his race was eradicated so in that way he was separate from most of his race. In some stories he eradicated his own race for that reason. He's also shown his good side with his cooperation with some of Earth's superhero groups at different times. Intellect comes first nature to him, but he's not stuck on any books and isn't attached to an intergalactic curriculum where he just picks up on that stuff right away, and those of academia even considered genius are slow and dumb to him where they just appear egotistical but very weak and pedestrian. Hal Jordan is brought back to life with Spectre entering into his soul matrix to repair the damage where Parallax is still apart of Hal Jordan. Spectre can make appearances since World War I or World War II as apart of Justice Society of America, but is a powerful ghost phantom who can attain Godlike levels temporarily if there's a need to but he usually doesn't, it's necessary when facing off against Anti-Monitor. Spectre doesn't age. In Infinite Crisis and Final Crisis, Anti-Monitor is apart of Sinestro Corps of the yellow power source in Qward with the alliance of Superboy Prime, Cyborg Superman Hank Henshaw, and Sinestro. Anti-Monitor was killed by the superheroes in that conflict, and Anti-Monitor is brought back in a dead state being reanimated by the necromancer black power source of the Black Lantern Corps, and so is Jean-Paul Valley and others. Gorilla Grodd is an interesting enemy I think of Flash, and there's lots of interesting creative stories of Flash. Flash can develop a lot of intelligent puzzles to influence the rest of the DC movies. Flash has some very cool stories. Billy Batson is given powers by Olympian Gods and was chosen by the Wizard Shazam for Billy Batson to become Shazam Captain Marvel. Wizard Shazam locates Billy Batson's blood family and also chooses them for the powers of the Olympian Gods, so that they can study together with Billy Batson as a family in ancient magical science, alchemy, and wizardry where it's more about studying and learning on those subjects than as just a superhero group. Most of what they study is outside of superhero work. Billy Batson is a lot more powerful than his other family members, but they make a great team studying together that they get a lot of the joy from as does Billy Batson. Billy Batson early on can join with Lex Luthor even though he still acts as a superhero, because Lex Luthor is a double edged sword who wants to incorporate a lot of growth for quality of life. Or Billy Batson doesn't join with Lex Luthor until later in Kingdom Come in 2033, and is partially brainwashed by Lex Luthor. Billy Batson is also green, and it's a good way to learn from both sides as he observes but still only acts as a superhero. In the same way Superman works with Lex Luthor and Brainiac Trio in capitalist socialism for a couple years to avoid a global nuclear war a few years before Kingdom Come, in The Dark Knight Returns and The Dark Knight Strikes Again. Black Adam (Teth-Adam) starts as very evil but is very angry being banished for 5000 years, and with the wisdom of a girlfriend in modern times becomes an anti-hero who is still very barbaric with his ancient upbringing. He becomes the ruler of Egypt in modern times, and his descendent Theo-Adam helps to guide him for modern times as a financially well off man in politics. Teth-Adam can run Egypt, but the other superhero groups won't allow him enforce his ways on other parts of the world. In Kingdom Come, Batman and Carrie Kelley recruit The Mutants faction to become Sons of Batman, who then just go by Batboys. Going into Kingdom Come it grows a lot bigger into a superhero militia called Batman's Outsiders that has a lot of superheroes in it, and Superman has something similar with Superman's Justice League. The evil militias are Lex Luthor's Mankind Liberation Front, and Magog's Justice Battalion. After The Reign of the Supermen, Eradicator is a consciousness hidden in Superman. Superman talks to time travelers and studies the information put into the Kryptonian computer system of the Hope codec, and he uploads the information from his DNA that Jor-El put in him as a baby. Eradicator helps guide Clark Kent's consciousness, unknown to Superman when he studies at the Fortress of Solitude. Clark Kent finds out Eradicator has been inside of him for months and asks Eradicator to leave his body. Superman creates Eradicator a body, and Eradicator wanting to help Superman leaves Superman a copy of Eradicator's own stored information as Eradicator is a very old sentient Kryptonian computer system who can't process compassion but is highly knowledgeable, wise, and effective. Superman develops technology to review different time periods, he studies the 5th dimension, and he travels around the galaxy. Superman gets certified as a member of the 31st century Legion of Super-Heroes, but because they're from the far future they recruit others of different time periods as teachers who review time and give instruction to their members for guidance instead of Superman being set to combat with them, but Superman can join in with them for actual combat against enemies from time to time. They recruit many teams of the 21st century for supervision and guidance to give instruction to optimize time. They have an academic learning process they give to their members. When Superman gets the shrunken city of Kandor, and a phantom zone projector he studies those. Zod can return back to life, as Kryptonians with yellow sun energy stored into them can return back to life much easier, but Zod goes into Krypton's past to try things there, and Superman travels in time after him. Superman is studying the future, different planets of the galaxy, different time periods, different realms, and the vast Kryptonian information left to him. He's also studying lots of advanced science and does lots of inventing. He learns how to extract all of the mineral elements for resources to create his own inventions, his own spaceships, without the need of monetary income. Superman studies the different galaxies and alternate realities with his telescope. He looks at the atomic structure and down to the planck length with a microscope. Those would be more advanced extraterrestrial versions of those devices. He could create his own advanced versions of the Hubble Telescope and Large Hadron Collider. He could look below the lowest planck length measurement if there is below, I haven't heard anything about it with Earth science but scientists are so oblivious there's so much they easily overlook. Clark Kent who also develops a strong bond to his Cal-El self, studies Earth extensively with his different sources like Diana Prince, Bruce Wayne, J'onn J'onzz, and with the papers he writes at The Daily Planet helping Lois Lane out because he can learn a lot about the world through watching her and helping her to get inside of everything which is why he puts his time into saving her each time. He wouldn't have that type of time for other people, but it benefits them both. He also does that because he has a closer relationship with her, but if he didn't have that type of time with all of his other responsibilities he would suggest to her to stop taking those risks which she only makes because Superman can save her each time. She'll face death but she would have been dead long before if Superman wasn't around if she took those risks. Sometimes Lois Lane dies but Superman travels back in time to prevent her death. Superman goes to many high level government officials and top secret, and he goes to those at NASA so he's studying a lot and learning all of the inner workings of Earth's civilization. Kara Zor-El and Conner Kent also give their input to Clark Kent for this learning process. Clark Kent was a recluse most of his life, and so he develops stronger into his Clark Kent and Cal-El identities. Lois Lane can help him to connect more with Earth, and he can learn a lot of new things with the new sources he's developed. Kara Zor-El came to Earth when she was a teenager or a young adult, and so she's developed a lot more in her Kryptonian identity. Her intelligent culture has a higher learning pedigree when their children are young, and she has very solid learning and knowledge when she was younger on Krypton. She's also born into a higher scientific royal family like Cal-El, and so they learn a lot more than the other castes of Krypton at their age. Cal-El didn't receive those teachings because he left the planet when he was a baby, but he was left a lot of knowledge in the Hope codec that's uploaded into a Kryptonian spaceship he brought to the Fortress of Solitude before the Hope codec was destroyed. He was also left a lot of knowledge, DNA programming, and DNA codes of the Kryptonian population in his own body as a baby he can upload on to the Kryptonian spaceship at the Fortress of Solitude. Kara Zor-El learns to live in the Earth culture, but she probably chooses better quality peers with the superhuman groups she interacts with. With the higher culture she grew up with she would probably get bored with even the richer educated women of Earth who are very primitive. She may hang out with more advanced extraterrestrials a lot. She would mix it up and go around different groups, that way she can hang around humans but if she were around them too often she'd find the experiences too dull and primitive, or she would hang out with those where she can get into science equipment but she can already provide herself much more advanced scientific equipment than theirs' (not based on the current show). In her culture in her royal scientist upbringing as the top caste echelon of her society she would have a much higher education and quality of upbringing to where even the rich educated women of Earth would be considered mentally retarded by her upbringing standards. There's still a lot of creativity with a few of the humans, but if she were to even blindly follow the fewer humans of Earth she'd still be as bad as them. That's why she hangs out with different groups and learns what she can, and then checks in while being around those with overall higher standards as her of her more advanced nature. Vril Dox with the Brainiac trio is of that intelligence level and may see the same way, but he still finds the benefit of the ingenuity and creativity of Lex Luthor while he doesn't blindly follow Lex Luthor, and is considered an elder consultant to Lex Luthor. Even with advanced beings Linda Lee Danvers will still just check in if she's picked up on what she currently is in the mind to learn of experiences with them, but may have those she is around a lot more often on a more long term basis. Clark Kent had to grow up on a farm in the middle of nowhere so he's just now learning so many things but he's a very quick learner getting top access in all areas. Conner Kent is financially rich and is marketed with the Cadmus Institute. He'll go to the beach and hang out with several bikini clad rich women, but then he gets attached to one woman in monogamy. He appeals to pop culture who have never had a real superhero as a pop culture icon, and most pop culture icons are loser 100 pound nerdy rich spoiled posers. With his Kryptonian DNA portion and enhanced intellect, Con-El is very good with his money also learning scientific research and mining for resources from elements in the ground. He still uses a lot of Earth's culture's ways so that he's not too disconnected from his Earthern DNA portion, and so he doesn't disconnect himself from the entirety of Earth culture of all aspects. Conner Kent was gene spliced of Cal-El's, Lex Luthor's, and Paul Westfield's DNA. Superman's DNA was studied when he died for DNA samples to create Superboy, but without damaging the body at all. In this way Conner Kent is sort of a son to Paul Westfield. Paul Westfield is a scientist at the Cadmus Institute with great knowledge as a geneticist. He gave the best DNA portions of the samples from three he collected including himself to Conner Kent, and awakened Conner Kent early in the cloning process so that they can market him as a teenager and without the bad experiences and bad memories of childhood. In his cloning he was implanted memories of knowledge in all subjects to be able to adapt to Earth's society. He still had to develop more cognitive maturity and cognitive experience because he was newly born without any experiences that only time and practice can develop but he was also a quick learner. He has challenges with politics at Cadmus Institute, with Steel, with Cyborg Superman, and then with Superman after the event. He was implanted with the knowledge, he's intelligent, but it takes development of cognitive experience and cognitive maturity to put those together with his impairment due to lack of actual experience like two identities even if he has the knowledge and capability for the situations, he's cognitively impaired until he gains that development through time and experience where he can know but being in the actual situation with his inexperienced emotional mindset adds an extra challenge to it but also gives him that strength of childlike awareness in newness that gives him problem solving skills his other peers don't have being closed off as adults and set in their ways. Hearing about the development of Superboy, Hank Henshaw uses his geneticist skills to include Superman's DNA encoding into Hank Henshaw's own DNA, after looking at Superman's dead body, but Hank Henshaw is also respectful not to damage Superman's dead body while Eradicator ends up getting ahold of Superman's dead body to protect it. Eradicator is an ancient Kryptonian artificially created consciousness (an ancient Kryptonian weapon) that wants to help Superman with what remnants of Krypton are left. Superman's dead body doesn't decay at all because it's preserved by negative hydrogen ions and biophotons it absorbed from the sun's rays for it to last for millenniums as long as it has those sun rays stored in it and it's not exposed to oxidizing air in a closed chamber. Superman's dead body is placed into a regeneration matrix at the Fortress of Solitude to preserve him. Superboy gets top level training from Cadmus Institute as they study him, and he also does different things with the media including superhero work for funding of Cadmus Institute. This way Cadmus Institute can also fund if Conner Kent has any issues as a clone that could come up. Conner Kent also develops contracts with other companies. He loses some of his bond with Cadmus Institute after Paul Westfield dies. Superboy shows more developed abilities than what Superman had at that age, because of the extensive training and studying done of Superboy at the Cadmus Institute. Superman at an older age for his prime growth is significantly stronger than Superboy at the time when they're going against Cyborg Superman at Engine City during Reign of the Supermen. When Superman better learns his abilities he develops better skill than Superboy's best after Superboy has years of experience. Superboy's DNA was given other abilities that are arguably enhancements, but if the Kryptonian DNA were better understood those enhancements would be seen as pointless and not as good as the fully realized Kryptonian abilities when those abilities are developed. There was a lot being explored with Kryptonian DNA, and they only got access to that DNA in a short period of time. When he gets into his adult years he grows to the frame size as Cal-El, but is more youthful including when he gets much older. Conner Kent is more attached to Earth's culture, that makes him like an almost entirely different person than Supergirl and Superman. If Justice League parts 1 and 2 aren't The Death of Superman, The World Without a Superman, The Sword of Superman, and The Reign of the Supermen, then they can go into a 2 parter of Crisis on Infinite Earths in 2020 and 2021, and then after that event develop into the Death and Return of Superman story arc as the next set of movies that could be a mixture of solo movies and a Justice League movie, that would also go into Emerald Twilight and Final Night while all of the other story arcs I mentioned would be factored into the movie run for a total of 23 years in total of DC live action movies that can add up to about 61 movies in this DC live action movie canon.

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GaboPSN
October 18, 2015
TL;DR? Guys, can anyone summarize it?
1. JaymusYawsley
  October 18, 2015
  I skimmed, but pretty much "every DC story from the past thirty years thrown in a blender and spread across 61 movies."

OGDickGrayson

October 17, 2015

In other words, there is a god?
And Zack isn't an idiot?

Kenton Slaughter

October 17, 2015

I am banking on it being an OMAC. Lot's of reasons for this, no reason to get into all of them. But I think everything that we do know for a fact lines up to support a Lex-controlled, Zod-based OMAC being the major baddie.

Kenton Slaughter
October 17, 2015
It could also easily be an amalgam of the two. Both are designed to combat metahumans after all.
1. metzz71
  October 19, 2015
  I think Scoot is a witness of the MoS battle @ Metropolis who unfortunately lost his legs in said battle. The only shot we saw of him was outside the Detroit courthouse. So IMO, he will be a witness for that bitch in the courts against Supes.
HEAVEN_OR_HECK
October 18, 2015
AMAZO is a bit too exotic for such an early villain. He's better off in a movie with more established heroes in the mix.

Sonny Crockett

October 17, 2015

Very true about the signed confidentiality agreementd....I call BS....

Potterbat

October 17, 2015

I honestly think this guy is covering his a$#. I don't think this proves Doomsday not being in this. My money says we'll see Doomsday in March!

SBHM

October 17, 2015

Suuuuuurrreeee

KryptoMaybe

October 17, 2015

Any chance that Lex Luthor will make a better krypto suit based on Batman's krypto suit earlier in the movie?

LexisgoodLexislife
October 17, 2015
Only if Lex was watching Batman fighting Superman behind the scenes

Trevor Douglas Allen

October 17, 2015

This makes so much sense! After the Fortune Magazine article I did think of Brother Eye but dismissed it as a non-combative, laser-beamless, satellite. I completely brain farted about O.M.A.C. I feel so dumb for being so close to this. This is so much better than the more mindless destruction of Doomsday or Bizarro.

GaboPSN

October 18, 2015

Michael Shannon also talked about it, but he recoiled later.

Kerk Lastnameless

October 18, 2015

I'm telling you, it's Bizarro.

Qui-mono

October 18, 2015

I don't even bother to keep assuming if he's telling the truth or not. If it's bizarro or Zod or if it's gonna end up be Doomsday, at the end I just want, I don't know, more new posters? Some thing that can get my hype more crazy

Atilla The Hun

October 18, 2015

Where are all the regulars who used to comment?
Like Dennis, the dark fallen, red queen etc

Harish
October 18, 2015
We all are at the off topic section of the forums.

Godspeed

October 18, 2015

I don´t think this guy will get into trouble for his comments. He did not speak about anything that will be in the movie and did not tell the audience anything it´s not supposed to hear yet. he only shot down something which was never more than a rumor to begin with. So I don´t think he´ll get into trouble for shooting down a rumor. he did not talk about anything thats actually in the movie.

then again he could purposefully misleading us. Similar to how JJ Abrams said that Khan would not be in the Star Trek sequel or how Sam raimi said Dock Ock would not be in Spider-Man 2. And we all know how that turned out.

Personally I don´t want to see Doomsday yet. This is only the second film in the DCEU and Doomsday is one of the biggest villains you could possibly do. They should not use up their biggest guns so early on in the game. Plus Doomsday is generally a Superman-centric villain and thus should be in a Superman movie, not a "Trinity" film like BvS. Besides BvS is already about something else and IF they bring in Doomsday the movie needs to be about him. anything else would be just a disservice to my most favorite Superman villain. "Death of Superman" was the story that got me into DC Comics in 1998 and it because of how much Doomsday affected and impressed me back then that I got into the DC Universe. So he is really special to me.

let BvS be about the rise of the heroes and the Superman and Batman story. Reserve the really big villains for future films. I know BvS has a lot riding on itself but DC does not need to burn through all the best stuff so quickly. Unless their DCEU won´t last longer than 5 years before they give up on it again.

Kal-El

October 18, 2015

Hey Chris.. tell us this guy still in MPC or not :)

Harish
October 18, 2015
He will be an employee at MPC but he won't be working on any DCEU projects I believe, considering both BvS and SS are being done there and most probably the future movies from DCEU as well.
1. Kal-El
  October 18, 2015
  :(

Harish

October 18, 2015

Look at that pathetic man child Eh Maybe, 2 months before a guy at movie pilot wrote an article on why Doomsday won't be in BvS and Eh Maybe called him out on twitter and was asking Movie Pilot to take down that article because Doomsday is in BvS for sure and now after this news broke out, this idiot is conveniently backing out by saying "maybe the 3rd act was changed after all but Doomsday was in the script #fact", maybe this man child believed the fake script to be the real thing.

Akil Manaz
October 19, 2015
oh wow. I had no idea. He is such a sissy. Whose article did he want taken down?
1. Harish
  October 19, 2015
  Some guy I don't know, his article was promoted and then Eh Maybe called him out and also called out Alisha.

Orlando Furioso

October 18, 2015

Brainiac then? Lex + AI?

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